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Lions-L Discussion List - March, 1997

From: David Reed
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:01:04 -0500
Subject: RE: Renova, Rogaine, Premarin, etc.

Just remember it's not a bald spot...It's a solar collection panel for a sex machine.

from someone who expects to look like a cue ball by the time he's 40...

David M. Reed (83)

From: L. Lynn DeLaMare
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 13:44:35 -0800
Subject: Re: Renova, Rogaine, Premarin, etc.

Jim,

Gosh, you're making me blush! What have I gotten myself into?

Lynn '65

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 18:06:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Beer

In a message dated 97-02-28 04:01:47 EST, Joe Butterfield '64 wrote:

<< Instead of playing golf why not let the kids play and we'll follow in the cart with the "expertly" cracked beer keg ? :-) >>

Joe - You drive, I'll drink -

Mike '64

From: George Burns
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:38:06 -0500
Subject: dialectal car tags

Saw a car tag from Indiana today, while I was coming home. Seems as though car tags are not safe from certain dialectic influences either. It read.... "IBPAT"

Anybody wanna touch, or top that one?

George '72

From: Mike Hursey
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 17:52:23 -0800
Subject: Re: Beer

I'm in!
Mike '70

From: Mike Hursey
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 17:57:28 -0800
Subject: Re:

I'm with you Rolf! Regardless of the cost, I think I can get the cost
below $1.00 per stroke. In fact, George . . . can we throw out one of the golf bags and strap in one of your kegs?! Real golf shootin'.

Mike '70

From: L. Lynn DeLaMare
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 18:19:20 -0800
Subject: Re: dialectal car tags

This isn't *dialectal," but a Mr. and Mrs. Ball were refused personalized plates (I believe in Texas); they appealed, saying that all they wanted was an indication that the car belonged to the two of them--just like the "Smiths." I understand they won.

Lynn Wood (DeLaMare) BHS '65

From: George Burns
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 21:51:08 -0500
Subject: Re: dialectal car tags

Wonder where the Balls... hung their tag? Or was is the tag for the Balls?

George '72

From: Wendy Page or William Edwards
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:35:49 -0800
Subject: I made it

I made it , and am getting some weird messages. Must be Lions..... My son and I are on the same receiver, and all he keeps asking is " what are all the messages " Too bad theere isn't a way of adding the sothern accent, it would sound even more like Baker.

Thanks for having a place to find the old Baker group!

From: George Burns
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 06:26:00 -0500
Subject: I made it

Okay... who you be?

Welcome to insanity and humor.

And yes... you can add an accent to your writings. A souuuuuthern draaaaawl is easy enough to do... it just drives spell check absolutely crazy.

George '72

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 07:36:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Welcome Wendy

Welcome Wendy - What's your class year?

Mike '64

From: C. Rolf Milton
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 97 06:58:21 UT
Subject: RE:

Now wait a minute, at a buck per stroke ?...... I can't afford $150 for a round of golf . . .

Rolf '67

From: David Reed
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 09:46:40 -0500
Subject: Re: dialectal car tags

I has been reported that someone in Georgia once had this plate. JOJATK (Georgia Tech)

No insults please, that's my alma matter. (after Baker that is)

David M. Reed ('83)

From: Jim Davis
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 10:18:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Renova, Rogaine, Premarin, etc.

Lynn,

Didn't mean to embarass you, but cute, smart and a clever sense of humor? And aware of that hair loss / better lover correlation, I admit it, I'm smitten.

Jim '66

From: George Burns
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 10:25:44 -0500
Subject: buck a hole

A buck a hole.... now that's cheap!!!!

There are several of us that are paying a lot more than a buck a hole... and have been for years. So stop cying about the price of a hole (greens repair fees that is); and for heaven sake... don't cry in the beer. Besides; the beer is cheaper than a buck a cup.

I think we'd do better to find a golf cart and outfit it with two kegs. You can put two golf bags on a cart... why not two kegs (one regular and one lite).

George '72

From: George Burns
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 10:33:26 -0500
Subject: dressed for surfing... or not dressed

An old friend has just e-mailed me and informed me that he too... surfs while in his underwear. And his wife surfs the net, while she's naked.

Is this a common ocurrence?.... or are we the only three nudists. I mean we know what old Mowery does. But I was wondering if being scantlly clad is a modern day way to check e-mail.

Anyone having done research on this phenomenon... please advise.

Signed:

Eagerly awaiting

George '72

From: Donald Burns
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 11:29:18 -0500
Subject: Re: dressed for surfing... or not dressed

Can someone tell me how to connect this video cam to my computer??

D. Burns '71

From: L. Lynn DeLaMare
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 08:49:14 -0800
Subject: Re: Renova, Rogaine, Premarin, etc.

Jim,

Oh, I'm not really embarrassed, just flattered. And starting to feel 16 again.... The compliments are going to my head.

But have you shared your current feelings with the Mrs.? You married guys!

Lynn '65

P.S. I don't KNOW about the hair loss/better letter correlation; I've just heard from those who know.

From: Donald Burns
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 11:54:24 -0500
Subject: Re: dialectal car tags

David; Tech is my alma matter, too. I have a friend who is a UGA grad and had some corny prestige auto tag. But, before I had a chance to see it, he had sold his car for gas money.....**g**

From: L. Lynn DeLaMare
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 10:08:51 -0800
Subject: Re: Renova, Rogaine, Premarin, etc.

I guess my inability to type "lover" (as in "better lover," not "better letter") to a married man is incredibly Freudian. (But it shows my great upbringing!)

Lynn Wood DeLaMare BHS '65

From: Pam Williams
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 13:06:22 -0500
Subject: Re: '68 DC-Atlanta connections

Connecting with all you DC guys is more fun! I just got off the phone with Vickie Kotulan Johnson in VA. She says she's not "computer literate", but sends you all her best. Vince and Charles, it was great to hear from you this week. I've got a call in to Debbie Simmons Kolb here in Atlanta and will let you know if I hear from her. My husband and I are talking about coming to DC in August for a medical convention and I'd love to have a mini-reunion there.

Does anyone use the Cool Talk with Netscape Navigator 3.0? I downloaded it last night and would love to try it out. That is just the coolest thing to talk and not have those long-distance charges! I'm definitely going to use it with our son away at college.

Hello to all and I hope Mrs. Powell's (no relation) party goes well Sunday. My mom still has the earrings I made with Mrs. Turgeon up at Benning Hills Elem. during an after-school craft session. Gosh, those earrings are getting to be antiques ;-)

Pam Powell Williams BHS '68

From: Foucher
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 14:35:48 -0800
Subject: Re: '68 DC-Atlanta connections

Pam, Could you pass a message along to Vickie K. Johnson Please? Her brother Bill and I were friends when we lived in Benning Hills. I have not heard from him in many years and would like to contact him. My email adress is : deleted My name is Rick Foucher class of 73, thanks if you can help.

From: Donald Burns
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 14:07:53 -0500
Subject: Re: '68 DC-Atlanta connections

Hi Pam! If you talk with Debbie Simmons tell her I said "hello", and ask her where Bert is these days... Last I knew, he was in Japan doing the photography thing. And have you heard from Keith Dunn lately?

From: George Burns
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 14:03:02 -0500
Subject: Re: '68 DC-Atlanta connections

Rick, Your e-mail address... any correlation to "Falcor" the white dragon on Never Ending Story?

George '72

From: George Burns
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 14:06:38 -0500
Subject: FYI

For those of you who don't have Cool Talk; NetMeeting on MSN is basically the same thing. I use it to talk with someone in Australia, all the time.

And you're right... beating those long dist. charges are great.

George '72

From: Foucher
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 15:22:37 -0800
Subject: Re: '68 DC-Atlanta connections

Yes it is George! We also have a teal named Falcor.

Rick 73

From: Teresa Pait BieseckerTeresa Pait Biesecker
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 14:50:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: address on line

George: You can reach me at Deleted. (I don't think you got my earlier message - I sent it to deleted. Is that your correct address?) Teresa Pait Biesecker '74

From: Pam Williams
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 14:53:06 -0500
Subject: RE: '68 DC-Atlanta connections

Hi Rick F.,

I called Vickie K. back and left your msg. on her machine and also told her I'd include it in the snail mail she getting from me. Hopefully, he is "computer literate" and you two can link up.

Pam Wms '68

From: Rick FoucherRick FoucherRick Foucher
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 1997 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: '68 DC-Atlanta connections

Pam,

Could you pass a message along to Vickie K. Johnson Please? Her brother Bill and I were friends when we lived in Benning Hills. I have not heard from him in many years and would like to contact him. My email adress is : deleted My name is Rick Foucher class of 73, thanks if you can help.

From: Pam Williams
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 14:57:49 -0500
Subject: RE: '68 DC-Atlanta connections

Hi Don,

I'll be sure to let Debbie know you said "hey" and I'll ask where Bert is. No, I haven't heard from Keith Dunn. His parents and mine go way back though and I think our moms have talked. He may like to know I have Jack Pritchard's phone # - they used to play golf for BHS together.

Pam Wms

From: Donald Burns
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 1997 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: '68 DC-Atlanta connections

From: Rick Foucher
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 16:31:08 -0800
Subject: Re: '68 DC-Atlanta connections

Thanks Pam, I hope he responds!

Rick 73

From: George Burns
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 15:34:16 -0500
Subject: Re: address on line

Teresa,

Got it now. Thanks. Chances are, my server crashed on me, or I accidentally deleted it before saving it. My address is George Burns (maybe leaving the e out caused the problem) (who knows these days).

After looking through my yearbook and finally finding you; I see you graduated with a lot of people I knew; but lost touch with. Hopefully, we'll all meet again at the '2000.

Thanks again for sending me your address. Who did you marry?

Have a good one.

George '72

From: Wendy Page or William Edwards
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 13:40:03 -0800
Subject: Re: I made it

I yam what I yam and that's all that I yam!

I be Wendy class of 72 sorry, forgot to add that on my "I made it" in message. I'm used to insanity, I think it is required where I work, or so they say. Anyway, "hey ya'll"........

From: Wendy Page or William Edwards
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 13:42:03 -0800
Subject: Re: Welcome Wendy

True blue in '72. I see by the messages I have started getting everyone seems to identify by class year. I will endever to follow suit.

Wendy '72

From: C. Rolf Milton
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 97 20:57:52 UT
Subject: RE: buck a hole

Ok, Ok I am willing to pay $150 for beer for a round of golf

Rolf '67

PS that was a buck per stroke, not per hole!

From: George Burns
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 1997 7:25 AM
Subject: buck a hole

A buck a hole.... now that's cheap!!!!

I think we'd do better to find a golf cart and outfit it with two kegs. You can put two golf bags on a cart... why not two kegs (one regular and one lite).

George '72

From: George Burns
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 16:59:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Welcome Wendy

Wendy,

Mike got the 20 questions started... so here goes more.

Again, welcome. Now... what's your last/maiden name; so everyone can try and match a face to the name. Many of use know each other without looking it up in a yearbook; but not all of us. So give it up girl.

And now that you're on; feel free to jump in with the rest of us. Everyone's comments are more than welcome. The more the merrier.

George '72

From: Donald Burns
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 17:07:54 -0500
Subject: Re: Welcome Wendy

Welcome Wendy! You had a great class in '72! Debby Kite was my sweetie for a while.....**sigh**

Don '71

From: George Burns
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 17:03:10 -0500
Subject: time to be a cracker

You "Bums" have a nice Saturday evening. Its time to head up to Louisville and locate a keg that needs cracking. Enjoy.

George '72

From: Donald Burns
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 17:13:36 -0500
Subject: RE: buck a hole

I say we bring one club....put two kegs in the back of the cart... and at a buck a stroke, I suggest we each bring $300 in cash (no checks accepted)...**g**

D. Burns '71

From: Mike Hursey
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 19:36:27 -0800
Subject: Re: Welcome Wendy

Mike '70

From: Roy Cook
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 08:24:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Renova, Rogaine, Premarin, etc.

Hey,

If "Bald Guys" are sexy, hmm, does that include me?

Sunshine (the original bald guy)

From: Roy Cook
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 08:43:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: VICKIE MORALES

Gang,

In 1993, my date (now my wife) and I went to Atlanta to see the Phantom , at the Fox Theatre. Our former classmate Vickie Morales (Victoria Mallory) was the lead actress. She is still absolutely GORGEOUS> and sings beautifully. We met her after the show and chatted about old times. She is such a great lady.

Sunshine 68

From: Wanda Slomka
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 10:38:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: I made it

This is Wanda SLOMKA Huguley from Baker class of 65. Currently residing in San Antonio, TX. Been married to a military since 1968 and travelled the world and have not been able to make one reunion. But I did get the video a few years back and was good to see familiaar faces from home. Hope to hear from some who remember me. Thanks for being on-line.

From: SWEENEY JEANNE
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 11:50:55 -0500
Subject: Re: I made it

Welcome Wanda!! We have missed you at the reunions -- but are so glad that you can join this group. We will have to communicate via private email and *catch up* on the past 30+ years.

Jeannie Penny Sweeney '65

From: A. Frank Stringfellow
Date: 02 Mar 97 09:05:08 -0800
Subject: Fwd: dialectal car tags

I believe the correct spelling of that license plate was: JOJATEK

I too saw the plate on an auto whilst passing through HOTLANTA. Funny how the Tech grads are showing through on this list... I am also a Tech alumnus and I'd be willing to bet that there are more Techies on this mailing list than Bulldogs (that is those who actually graduated versus just being fans).

Tom Mowery (BHS '73) is also a Tech alumnus.

Kindest regards,

A. Frank Stringfellow BHS '62

Date: 01 Mar 97 08:54:24
From:Donald Burns
Subject:Re: dialectal car tags

David;

Tech is my alma matter, too. I have a friend who is a UGA grad and had some corny prestige auto tag. But, before I had a chance to see it, he had sold his car for gas money.....**g**

From: A. Frank Stringfellow
Date: 02 Mar 97 09:42:22 -0800
Subject: Fwd: Renova, Rogaine, Premarin, etc.

Bald men do NOT make better lovers. Being bald only makes them try harder.

Full-hair-headed men like Tom Mowery & myself are just very fortunate that we don't have to be concerned with loss of hair. Instead we concentrate on other areas of our appearance, like the "battle of the bulge".

In either case, you make love from your heart. You make sex with your sexual organs. Your and your partner's heart don't know and don't care about hair (or lack of it) and don't know nor care about the size of your gut. Love is NOT the same as sex and sex is NOT the same as love. You can have sex without love and you can have love without sex. Though not mandatory, it is best to have the two together. Then again some poor fools have neither sex nor love.

Hot damn, this should spark a few e-mails.

Kindest regards,

A. Frank Stringfellow

From: George Burns
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:34:32 -0500
Subject: I made it

Welcome to the fun Wanda... glad to have you here

George '72

From: L. Lynn DeLaMare
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 09:55:09 -0800
Subject: Re: I made it

Wanda,

Welcome to @Baker! I remember you - and your brother Charles was in my Latin class taught by our favorite teacher, Miss Inez Newman. He'll remember her!

Glad you could join us.

Lynn Wood (DeLaMare) BHS '65

From: L. Lynn DeLaMare
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 10:01:28 -0800
Subject: Balding (ok, I'm almost thru w/this)

It was Steve Whitelaw '66 who said that ladies he has dated said bald men are sexy. I have heard that they make better lovers, which of course go hand in hand.

But the bottom line is that if you and your partner feel sexy, you are. All right, enough said.

Lynn Wood DeLaMare '65

From: L. Lynn DeLaMare
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 10:06:02 -0800
Subject: Balding Vol. II

On second thought, why are you on-line at 8:24 on a Sunday morning? ;-)

Lynn (Wood) DeLaMare '65

From: George Burns
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 14:30:38 -0500
Subject: Fwd: Renova, Rogaine, Premarin, etc.

LI>don't have to be concerned with loss of hair. Instead we concentrate on other areas of our appearance, like the "battle of the bulge".

that's a never ending battle for anyone these days. been there... doing that

From: George Burns
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 14:35:28 -0500
Subject: Balding Vol. II

Lynn,

Poor Sunshine; he ain't got no hair no mo, ain't got no life at 8:24 on a Sunday morning. All he be havin is his e-mail. He's probably just happy as hell he got on line with AOL.

George '72

From: Randy Achey
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 18:36:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: dialectal car tags

To those from Tek, there are at least two Georgia Bulldogs on line. Best wishes to those that attended the North Avenue Trade School.

Randy Achey '70' Lion, '73' Bulldog

From: Roy Cook
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 19:28:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: I made it

Hi Wanda,

Welcome to the @Baker network.

Sunshine 68

From: Roy Cook
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 19:31:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Balding Vol. II

Lynn wrote: Why were you on line at 8:30 a.m.?

I was up to shower and polish my head for church.

Sunshine 68

From: Roy Cook
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 19:39:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Balding Vol. II

George

Amen to getting online thru AOL. That's why I was up at 8:24a.m. to check my email, fairly easy to get on at that time of day.

Roy 68

From: Donald Burns
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 20:17:51 -0500
Subject: Re: dialectal car tags

Hi ya, Randy! Although a "bee", my best friends are "dawgs"...How have you been these days?!

Don Burns '71

From: Wendy Page or William Edwards
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 21:59:43 -0800
Subject: Re: Welcome Wendy

It's as simple as what you're reading. Page is the maiden name, and also what I go by these days.

From: Wendy Page or William Edwards
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 22:21:52 -0800
Subject: Re: Welcome Wendy

I think she was in my algebra class in our Junior year if I'm not mistaken. It's been so long, I can't be sure.

Wendy 72

From: Bob Brown
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 97 02:07:38 EST
Subject: New Record

We've set a record! Fifteen Lions signed in @Baker in the past week, which is the best week we've had so far. (Bruce Emerson is personally responsible for several of them. Thanks, Bruce!)

To date, more than 350 Lions have signed in. That's pretty good, but I estimate that 10,000 people graduated from Baker, and probably that many more passed through without being able to stay to graduate, so we have a ways to go. I'm hoping for a thousand by the end of the year.

If you know a Lion who hasn't signed in, please pass the word.

If you're a reunion committee person who can get a set of mailing labels for your class, I want to hear from you! (I've designed an inexpensive black and white postcard announcing @Baker.)

--Bob '65

From: katherine.stroup
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 97 07:32:48 CST
Subject: Re: Fwd: Renova, Rogaine, Premarin, etc.

How right you are, Mr. Stringfellow!! If only the youngsters could understand that. I hope you have a significant other that appreciates your insight.

Tiny Tinker Stroup '75

Date: 27 Feb 97 15:42:52
From:Jim Davis
Subject:Re: Renova, Rogaine, Premarin, etc.

I am beginning to really like you, Lynn!!

Jim '66

From: Keith Pratt
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 09:13:38 -0600
Subject: Re: I made it

Hi Wanda,

You probably don't remember me , but I do you, welcome to BHS nt.

Keith

From: Rosanna Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 3 Mar 1997 11:38:32 EDT
Subject: Hey Sunshine!!

LI>If "Bald Guys" are sexy, hmm, does that include me?

LI>Sunshine

LI>(the original bald guy)

It most assuredly does... Got a problem here....Had to redo...all network software to include NT stuff. Inadvertently, I lost all my email addresses for BHS and otherwise...Need your email address again, please. and all others...would be good if all could include email address every now and then on these messages....?...so we can "capture" or type into computer address books. Thanks! R. Elaine Groves BHS67 [Senior in 67 yearbook....] (Rosanna Elaine Graves Baker now....I can be emailed at either address below:
deleted

From: Rosanna Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 3 Mar 1997 11:51:02 EDT
Subject: Fwd: Renova, Rogaine, Premarin, etc.

Bravo! R. Elaine Groves BHS67 Senior in 67 Yearbook Now...Rosanna ELAINE Graves BAKER

From: A. Frank Stringfellow
Date: 03 Mar 97 13:25:27 -0800
Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Renova, Rogaine, Premarin, etc.

Tiny Tinker Stroup,

Thank you, and yes I agree our youngsters need an education. My significant other and I have been (sometimes) blissfully married for 31 years. The road to true love is never a perfectly smooth one. Marriage is an ongoing compromise of give & take. Divorce is an altogether too easy escape. When things get tough, as they almost assuredly will, that's when you and your spouse need each other the most; and should draw you together rather than force you apart. God, it took me a long time to learn this. I don't think I will ever divorce. I'm too happy. Besides, it would take too long to get adjusted to another.

Kindest regards,

A. Frank Stringfellow BHS '62

Date: 03 Mar 97 05:32:48
From: katherine.stroup
Subject:Re: Fwd: Renova, Rogaine, Premarin, etc.

How right you are, Mr. Stringfellow!! If only the youngsters could understand that. I hope you have a significant other that appreciates your insight. Tiny Tinker Stroup '75

From: Sandye Smith
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 17:53:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: New Record

Bob,

I will get you the 64 list in the mail although as you know I sent copies of the Ledger Enquirer article to all of them.

Sandye '64 >

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:41:22 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Bulldogs

In a message dated 97-03-03 04:02:12 EST, Frank Stringfellow wrote:

<< I'd be willing to bet that there are more Techies on this mailing list than Bulldogs (that is those who actually graduated versus just being fans). >>

I'll accept that challenge - to Hell with TEK!

Mike '64

From: Donald Burns
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:10:45 -0500
Subject: Re: Bulldogs

Long live the gold and white!! Go, you hairy bumblebees!!!

Don Burns BHS '71; GT '75, '79

From: BERCO95
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:59:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: dialectal car tags

Randy, Is Paul on line. If so send him my email or send me his. I understand that he is coaching somewhere in Atlanta. Tell him to get in touch. Bruce Emerson 67

From: Pam Williams
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 20:28:41 -0500
Subject: RE: '68 DC-Atlanta connections

Donald,

Debbie Simmons just called me and she was happy to get you up-to-date with Bert. He's still in Japan (since 1983) and is a world-renown photographer. He's done 2 books on Tokyo and sent her his book on New Zealand as a Christmas present. Bert's mom has moved back to Columbus and Debbie said he should be visiting sometime soon. Hope this helps.

Regards,

Pam '68

From: Donald Burns
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 1997 2:07 PM To: lions-l@Baker.HS.ORG Subject: Re: '68 DC-Atlanta connections

Hi Pam! If you talk with Debbie Simmons tell her I said "hello", and = ask her where Bert is these days... Last I knew, he was in Japan doing the photography thing. And have you heard from Keith Dunn lately?

From: Pam Williams
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 21:02:31 -0500
Subject: Re: '68 Atlanta-DC - Part II

Hello to all,

I heard from 2 more '68 folks via phone. Jack Pritchard is in Arlington, VA and has a White House assignment. All you DC folks are doing so well. I'm proud of your accomplishments! Debbie Simmons Kolb called and we'll do the "lunch thing" soon. She is a hospital consultant and knew nothing about the Baker family. She can't wait to contact us and will be getting a new home computer soon. Also called Frank Zachman and told him to check this out.

That's great about a new record for registrations - but I bet it will be broken soon. Hope so. Congrats, Mr. Emerson on your efforts.

Regards to all,

Pam Powell Williams '68

From: Randy Achey
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 21:12:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: dialectal car tags

Bruce,

Paul is not on line, or rarely, he doesn't use his modem. He is no longer coaching but still teaching math at Riverwood High School in Atlanta.

Randy Achey "70"

From: Jim Davis
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 21:41:46 -0500
Subject: Re: Renova, Rogaine, Premarin, etc.

Lynn,

Well, three outa four ain't bad. Yeah, I have, and unfortunately she confirms from personal experience (hope she means me...or do I?) that there is no truth to the correlation of hair loss/ better lovers. Neither of us have heard about the hair loss/letter writing thing. Please explain. Jim '66

From: Jim Cleveland
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 22:32:51 -0500
Subject: Re: Bulldogs

Enough already of this JAJA & TEK stuff. War Damn Eagle!!!

From: Vince Collier
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 23:54:27 -0500
Subject: Re: BHS Reunion 2000 or 1998?

Hello Again! Vince Collier here. Spoke with Billie Goolsby Barlow a few days back. Looks like the Washington DC/Northern Va. get together at her home in Cross Point, Fairfax Station, is rescheduled for Saturday, 5 April 97, 8 PM until whenever, dress is casual. This is a change from the 15th of March! Billie is not on line yet, so by default I guess I am the Point of Contact (POC) as we say in the military. Folks interested, please contact me at travler@erols.com and I will get back to you!! Thanks!

Vince Collier '68

From: Steve Crawford
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 06:39:38 -0800
Subject: All Alumni and Wannabe's

Please, folks..... I can wade through the bald stuff... and a reasonable amount of the sexual innuendo... but, please, don't start the Bulldog, War Eagle, Rambling Wreck thing... or, as an Oregonian, I'll have to dirty up the water with a running commentary on the University of Oregon DUCKS and the Oregon State BEAVERS!!!!! Put THAT in your grits and have a nice day.

Steve Crawford '68

From: L. Lynn DeLaMare
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 07:16:14 -0800
Subject: Re: All Alumni and Wannabes

And if you jump in, I'll have to also: the University of Washington HUSKIES and the Washington State University COUGARS have been duking it out for what seems like centuries.

Anybody remember Columbus High School? Now that was rivalry!

Lynn Wood (DeLaMare)

BHS '65 Seattle, WA - University of WA Country!

From: A. Frank Stringfellow
Date: 04 Mar 97 13:26:23 -0800
Subject: Fwd: All Alumni and Wannabe's

Oh, give me a break. Half the fun of going to college is being able to brag about and toot your horn about your alma mater. War-damn-Eagles, Tides, Bulldogs, Techies, Canes, 'Noles, Tar-heels, Tigers, Molesters, Huskies, Long-Horns, Blue-birds, Volunteers, Wolverines, Middies, Bears, Sooners, awwwwww hell, all-of-you.....

Blow your horn, brag-on..... go ahead, let's hear from you, especially those who've been sitting on the side-line, reading but not participating, speak-up.....

Kindest regards,

A. Frank Stringfellow

BHS '62, GT '70, CSU '85, Mercer '90

From: Randy Achey
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:22:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Bulldogs

Was this the school where the homecoming queen required a natural grass turf, the school painted the trash cans blue and orange so the kids thought they were eating at Howard Johnson's, or finally, the school with the library fire that lost both books, but the loss wasn't so bad because the coloring book had not been used. :0)

Randy Achey '70'

From: C. Rolf Milton
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 97 04:10:55 UT
Subject: RE: buck a hole

Thaaaat might work . . .

Rolf '67

From: Donald Burns
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 1997 2:13 PM Subject: RE: buck a hole

I say we bring one club....put two kegs in the back of the cart... and at a buck a stroke, I suggest we each bring $300 in cash (no checks accepted)...**g**

D. Burns '71

From: WILSON C GRIER
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 07:55:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Alumni?

Anyone who cannot remember that the "BLUE JEWS" were (are) the most hated of high school rivals is not entitled to call themself a "LION".

From: David Reed
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 12:16:58 -0500
Subject: Hello - Reply

>>> ON 03/05/97 AT 10:52pm David Gow <d.gow@mailbox.uq.edu.au> SENT TO David Reed >>>

Dear David ...

This is one of the most unusual inquiries you'er likely to receive for quite a while. The story is simple: I was browsing the web, and a search turned up Baker H.S., and I peeked, and ...your Email address came up. After reading the brief bio's of several people, it seems that everyone wants to go back to Columbus, GA. (It did take a little while for it to dawn on me that Baker H.S. is in Columbus, GA--perhaps because I'm inquiring from Australia.)

So...can you tell me why the Baker H.S. alum want to return to Columbus, GA?

It also seems that Baker H.S. graduates seem to think pretty positively about Baker.?

As I said, a strange (but serious) inquiry.]

Sincerely, David Gow D.Gow

<<<<<< Response from David M. Reed 12:15pm (GMT-5:00) 3/05/97

David, There are probably a lot a reasons former students who left the area now think about returning, and I am not prehaps to best one to try to answer your question. A big reason many left in the first place is that the city has a very large US Army base (Fort Benning), and Baker was the high school where many of the soldiers children attended. When the soldier was assigned to another base (which happens at about three year intervals) these students had to move. I think this also lead to a high percentage of Baker students later entering military service; children of soldiers are more likely to enter the military than the average.

The city of Columbus, GA is a nice quiet city. The climate is quite hot in the summer (average high temperature 95 Farenheight (35 C), with winters averaging less than 6 inches (15cm) of showfall all winter, many years with no snow). While any area has crime, I do feel that Columbus has less than average, and it is a city I always felt safe in. One of the biggest problems is that there are not enough jobs at entry levels for college graduates, especially in technical fields. So you see the best and brightest students often leave to go to universities and not return or else attend the small university there and then leave for work elsewhere, especially in Atlanta. Some new companies have relocated to Columbus in recent years and that has begun to address this problem.

I suspect that as these former students age, they have a different perspective on the city. I know that I do. I personally would prefer to have my children grow up there than where I am now. I want less excitement in my life and more peace and quiet. The cost of living is perhaps 20%-40% less there than the national average, in many places in the southern U.S. home rents and purchase prices are far, far less than in other regions of the country.

I do expect to return to Columbus to live in a few more years, when I have the right combination of work experience and skills to get a good job with one of the local companies.

I need to close now, but thanks for the interest. I'm going to send your message to me on the discussion group reserved for the Baker alumni that's run as part of the web page you saw. I suspect that you may get other responses from its readers.

Hope to hear from you again soon.

David M. Reed (class of 1983)

From: Pam Williams
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:37:08 -0500
Subject: Love for Baker HS

Hi David in Australia,

D. Reed makes several great points in talking about Columbus, GA and Baker High School and I'd like to give you my 2 cents (shillings?) worth.

I graduated in '68 and now live in the Atlanta, GA area (about 100 miles from Columbus). David's right about the job opportunities being here in Atlanta (Hotlanta as we affectionately call it), but Columbus is making great strides in attracting industry. You see though we live all over the world.

What made Baker so great was a combination of faculty and students. There was a real sense of pride in our school and I guess that continues today. After graduation, we all scattered to the four winds, but as you can tell, we LOVE to get back together. I've talked to folks I haven't seen for 29 years because of this web site and others will tell you similar stories. It certainly makes the world smaller for us miltary brats and civilians.

What was your high school like? Do you keep up with anyone? What do most people do after public education is completed? Give us your news from Australia.

Warmest regards,

Pam P.Williams BHS'68

From: Teresa Pait Biesecker
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:57:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Bulldogs

Just checking in - UGA Bulldawg here!!

Teresa Pait Biesecker '74 (Lived in River Mill Apts. across from the "Hedges" during Hershal Walker's glory days)

From: Teresa Pait Biesecker
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:52:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: VICKIE MORALES

Sorry-I always forget to sign my e-mails. Sunshine this is Teresa Pait Biesecker class of '74. :-}

From: Teresa Pait Biesecker
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:50:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: VICKIE MORALES

Hi Sunshine:

WOW!!! It is so strange that you should bring up Victoria Mallory at this time. Night before last my daughter (Morgan age 12) asked to see my scrapbook from my childhood. I happen to have ushered at the Springer Theatre for the performance of "The Fantasticks" during my days at Eddy Jr. High and have a program from that play in my scrapbook. It is autographed by Victoria. I have not looked at that scrapbook in many years until my daughter's request! I had quite a crush on her co-star at that time. P.S. Loved your reply about being up on Sunday morning to polish your head for Church!!

From: katherine.stroup
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 97 15:55:08 CST
Subject: Re[2]: Bulldogs

Whose hedges were you playing in with Hershal Walker? Tiny

From: Jim Davis
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 19:39:16 -0500
Subject: Re: Hello - Reply

Well done, David! You might have mentioned however, that CSG was the home of the 1996 Olympic Women's Fast Pitch Softball Competition where the Aussie team was very competitive.

Jim Davis '66

From: Carolyn Hall Tidd
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:05:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Bulldogs

HI --I am just checking after reading a week's worth of mail stacked up by @Baker folks. This is so great..

Carolyn Hall Tidd '70 - Give Hell big 'L"-give 'em Hell!!

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 08:02:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Baker High School

Hello David,

I saw your note to David Reed and his answer, which I agree is accurate.

Many of us saw a wide variety of the world and the United States...and Columbus is definately one of the best all-around places to live.

In addition, most of the alums you communicating in our dicussion forum attended Baker during a time when we had a particularly enlightened (and skilled) administration coupled with a faculty of exceptional worth. Baker was the largest high school in Geogia for some time, and we were divided into classes based upon abilities and other esoteric reason known only to the administration.

It was a very "protected" time. We had lots of benign freedom, and we used it.

Anyway, I hope this adds to the flavor of David's letter.

Mike Omelanuk

Baker HS class of '64

From: David Reed
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 08:35:26 -0500
Subject: Reply to Jim Davis...

You go right ahead... I did realize that Columbus didn't receive anything like the recognition it deserved. Everybody just remember that David Gow is NOT on the lists for these messages, he just saw the web page, and you have to send e-mail directly to him... <d.gow@mailbox.uq.edu.au>

David M. Reed ('83)

From: Cassonya Douglass
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 10:53:25 -0500
Subject: Re: Baker High School

Been reading all the mail and none are from the time I atteneded Baker. We still had 11 grades and Mr. Moon was the Superintendent. The boys had just got back from fighting in WW2 and some were in their 20's. Since Baker was mainly to handle Ft.Benning's overflow, students came and went and life was fun. 16 credits got you graduated and we had two types of studies. College prep and Business. I am interested in the year 2000 reunion and wonder how many persons from the '47, '48, and '49 classes will be able to make it. When I left Columbus I said I would never return and here I am back and have been for over 10 years. Guess I'll die here but hopefully not before the reunion. Cassonya Kobs Douglass Class of '48

From: Johnny Joiner
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 13:22:54 -0500
Subject: Re: Baker High School

Cassonya,

I think it's pretty great, having someone on the list who was around in the first three or four years of Baker's existence.

At the 2000 reunion, I believe that students in that category should be considered " Special Guests of Honor ". Anyone want to second the motion?

Johnny Joiner ' 65

From: W J Orr
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 14:18:42 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Baker High School

I second the motion. I was in the second grede during his senior year.

W J Orr '59

From: katherine.stroup
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 97 14:53:10 CST
Subject: Re[2]: Baker High School

I, Tiny Tinker Stroup, Baker High School Class of 1975,will gladly second that motion!!!

From: TMccool811
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:15:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Baker High School

I will certainly second that motion,and hope the committee sees fit to provide a coursage for the ladies in attendance from the first class or two.

Ted McCool 1966

From: Steve Whitelaw
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:29:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Baker High School

I second and third the motions for honoring those classmates from the 40's & 50's

Steve Whitelaw 1966

From: Dell Emerson
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 06:47:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Baker High School

Cool!! I'd like to hear more on these older days. Keep and touch and share...

Dell Emerson '69

From: Roth Ron
Date: 97-03-07 09:10:23 EST

Regarding Ms. Cassanoya Douglass' reference to her attendance at Baker in the mid-40's, I though it might be nice for her to know about the Cochrans's, PJ's parents, who both attended Baker in the 40's. I'm not sure when, but she might know them---Clara and Wallace Cochran. They live in Windsor Park near the airport. Rachel and I gave them a picture of Baker from back when it first got started. That was when I discovered Baker was named after the Secretary of Defense (War?) from that era.

Ron Roth

From: Foucher
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 12:55:26 -0800
Subject: Re: Carol Caulder

Ha!! I have been on here,haven`t heard much from you !!!( Grin )

Rick Foucher 73

From: Roy Cook
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 12:12:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: VICKIE MORALES

Hi Teresa, Thanks for to reply about Vickie. She was perhaps the most talented student we had at Baker.

Sunshine 68

From: George Burns
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 12:26:40 -0500
Subject: Re: Carol Caulder

Well... its like this Rick. Some of us have real jobs and have to earn a living, pay taxes and ex-wives. So needless to say; I've been out there busting my ass to make the IRS and two ex-wives.... as happy as I can.

Gotta go... back to work

George '72

(been out of town for four days)

From: Steve Bernhard
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 12:27:40 CST
Subject: UN-SUBSCRIBE

Please remove me from mailing list thanks

From: Cassonya Douglass
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 13:40:32 -0500
Subject: Re: Krystals, Coca-Cola etc.

$1.00 hour? I worked 6 days a week and got $2.00 a day.

Cassonya '48.

'course Pepsie was 12 full ounces for a nickel.

From: CMclendon
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 08:59:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Baker High School

Ms Douglas were you at Baker because of Ft. Benning or brcause you lived in the county or near the school. Your note confuses me somewhat in the 11 grades patrt. Did graduation occur after 11 years then?

C Mclendon '62

From: Jim Cleveland
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 10:37:09 -0500
Subject: Re: Baker High School

As I recall, Georgia had an 11 year system until the early 50's. I graduated from Baker in 50 and I went 11 years. My wife graduated from Jordan in 53 and she had to go 12 years. That is the best I can recall. That was a long time ago. Also, as I recall the Benning students went to Columbus High at that time. Most of my class were country kids that lived in that part of Columbus.

Jim Cleveland, Class of 50

From: George Burns
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:04:42 -0500
Subject: hearing from the "PAST"

It is so good to see that @Baker has reached so many people... from so far back in time. Anyone out there who is merely "reading in"; please get on here and share the memories you have. So many of you early graduates have enlightened us all on facts about Baker and Columbus... some of us never knew.

Thanks for sharing those memories and please continue; or please join in and start.

George '72

From: JBolles174
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 00:22:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Miss Zamecnik

Are you talking about June Zamecnik? If so, I heard she is in Texas and is a principal of a high school there. Joann Hart '66 told me that at our reuion last year. But, I do believe you all are talking about June's sister Judy . She taught at Baker also and she was the one who liked to go out alot. I was at June's house alot back then and we were good friends and Judy always was going out to Party . June would have been in college in ' 68 . By the way, Judy lefted June and Me at the movie threater at Benning and she would go to Russ pool. One time June and I walked all the way home from the Ben-Her movie at threater 1 on post and we were mad at Judy for forgetting us. Oh well, I can ask Joann for her address if she will give it to me. I'll yet you know .

Janice Pait Bolles '66

From: Roy Cook
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 09:28:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Jimmy or John Bolles

Janet, Are you married to John or Jimmy? If you are married to Jimmy, is he still teaching Karate? I saw him about 10 years ago at the Trade Center with his students performing at a fitness show.

Sunshine 68

From: Britt Ware
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 10:52:49 -0800
Subject: Baker's Early Years

Since there seems to be some interest in Baker's early years, I thought I'd pass this along. First, Baker Village and Baker Village School (later known as just Baker) were built in the early 1940's to house and school military families/dependents (Baker Village was a Government Housing Project and patrolled routinely by military police); this was brought about due to the heavy influx of personnel at Ft. Benning in support of the war effort.

I was one of the early military brats to attend Baker and entered the 4th grade there in 1943 (my step-father was sent overseas with the 82nd Airborne Division and my mother, brother, and I had returned to Columbus from Fayetteville/Ft. Bragg, NC). I might also mention that we lived at 110 Fletcher Ave........I've noticed that many of you have made reference to that address.

Fletcher Ave was a part of Benning Park (I suppose it still is) and in those days, there were no paved roads.......it was country. Cows, horses, chickens, etc. were a common sight in the area. Our house on Fletcher had all the country amenities.........outhouse, water well off the back porch, fireplaces for heat and a wood stove in the kitchen for cooking and heating bath water.

I remember very well walking to school on those unpaved roads and how nice it was when I got to the Baker Village area because those streets were paved (and yes folks, it was uphill both ways). We attended the Benning Park Baptist Church many of you seem to remember; It was a wooden structure originally.

Some of the family surnames in the area back then included Copeland, Redmon, Godwin, Blomberg, Brooks, Cumming, Luke, Levesque, Puckett, Leslie (my step-father), McSwain, and Shepherd. Perhaps a few of these families were still there when you later arrivals came upon the scene. If so, I'd be very interested in your recollections.

Guess I've rambled on long enough but thought I'd share with you some of thoughts on what was going on in that area some 54 years ago (My God! Its really been that long hasn't it).

Britt Ware ('53)

From: George Burns
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 11:20:50 -0500
Subject: Baker's Early Years

Britt, Your memories put a new page in the book, for many of us. I was to be born serval months after you graduated; so this adds a different perspective to an area I would immigrate to from Europe; some eight yrs. later. Thanks for sharing those "early years".

Up hill both ways.... now how does that work again?

George '72

From: Joy White
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 09:47:16 -0800
Subject: Re: Baker's Early Years

Britt,

Okay. So us Fletcher late-comers had it comfy! Hard to picture that area as country. I do remember when Fletcher finally became a black-top street, 1958. All the moms complained about the stench of tar and all the billows of dust as they smoothed down the street for the tar! The dust was so fine that it made its way through nooks and crannies into our homes. We thought the tree out front was great for climbing above all the commotion, but we still got dirty.

Bill D, do you remember Fletcher like that? You graduated in '52.

BTW: The dust brings back to memory all those spring and summer months at Benning Park housing. There we ran behind the DDT spray trucks breathing in all that powerful toxin. Did we mind our parents, nah, it was just part of summer fun. I imagine most of our area was sprayed because of the "creek" that run through the housing areas around Baker.

Joy Mellen White
Lion Cub '69

From: Bill Dawson
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 97 15:33:30 EST
Subject: Baker History

Regarding the 11-grade graduation story...

Yes, Virginia, it is true. In the far-distant past, Georgia law required only 11 grades for graduation from high school. When that law was changed, schools switched to the new 12-grade system at various times within a short time window. Baker switched in the school year that began in the fall of 1950.

This means that the Lions who graduated in 1951 had been seniors for two years. They were in the 11th grade, the top grade, in 49-50, and in the brand-new 12th grade, the top grade, in 50-51. Actually, a goodly number of the 11th-grade-seniors in 49-50 were allowed to graduate, after pleading something akin to the NFL hardship case.

I graduated in 1952, the second class to go 12 years. So I never had an option.

We thought we'd have a killer of a football team in 1950, because of our "redshirts." I mean, after all, seniors who can come back with another year of eligibility should be able to do better. 'Twas not to be, however. We got shellacked by Central in the opening game and it went downhill from there. I checked to see just how bad it was, and the '51 Arrowhead didn't even list the games, the scores, or the record. Unfortunately -- or maybe fortunately -- time has erased the details from my memory. Ed Wolfe was the head coach then, and for a number of years following.

Just in passing -- I've been reading all the recent (to me) memories of you guys from the 60's and 70's, and it's been very interesting. Those of us from the Eisenhower years are not, as sometimes thought, incredibly dull and bland -- there are some great memories from those times, too. Maybe if the glorious 2000 reunion takes place, there'll be a moment or two for us oldies to recollect a bit.

Bill Dawson Baker '52

From: steve thomas
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 15:17:40 +0000
Subject: counterclockwise

Hello ya'll. Did any of you fine, illustrious Bakerites go to South Columbus Elementary School? I attended every grade there ( no, not junior high or high school grades). I have heard about Fletcher Ave.,Benning Hills, Ft. Benning, and Baker Village milieus, but haven't noticed any communication concerning the intellectual vortex of Columbus. Does anyone have the same unbiased opinion? Maybe I was sucked in. Have a great day.

Steve, '67.

From: Donald Burns
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 17:47:16 -0500
Subject: Re: Baker History

Mr. Dawson:

I look forward to meeting you at the reunion....I was born in '52...would love to discover, from another's perspective, those formative years...

Best wishes for happy days!

Donald Burns '71

From: Keith Pratt
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 19:26:31 -0600
Subject: Re: counterclockwise

Yes I'm glad to say that I attended all of my elementary school days at SOuth Columbus Elementary. I remember people like, Doug Mixon, Jean Levitt, Dianne Martin, Pam Leonard. Mr. Reed was the Science teacher, wow what memories!!

Keith Pratt, BHS '65

From: L. Lynn DeLaMare
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 18:21:03 -0800
Subject: Diversity

Dear Lions,

I've been sitting on this for quite a while, but don't want to keep silent any longer. As Dr. King said, "Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere."

A while back I sent this message: "Anyone remember Columbus High School? Now that was rivalry!" We received a response referring to the "BLUE JEWS" and the fact that they "were (are) the most hated of high school rivals." [For those of you not on track here, most kids from the town's uppercrust families attended CHS; hence the blueblood reference.] I know that in the old days we all heard (and sometimes adopted or at least tolerated) phrases that might have seemed harmless - "free, white and 21," "made out like a Jew in a junkyard," etc. Let's face it; they were pretty common in certain circles. But they weren't okay then, and they aren't okay now.

I doubt that anyone today would refer to Steven Spielberg or Albert Einstein as a Blue Jew, nor Arthur Ashe as a coon, or whatever trash talk we heard/learned years ago. My fear is that someone might read this kind of material on the @Baker page and assume that since no one objected, we must condone it. I want to go on record that I do not, and for those of you who agree, and don't want to start a free-for-all in the @Baker mail, please e-mail me directly.

This isn't just a matter of being politically correct. It's the milk of human kindness. I know I'm a bleeding heart, and some of you may think I'm way OUT THERE, but let's keep the page free of hurtful language.

These comments are made with the kindest of intentions. I don't mean to embarrass anyone; I just have to speak up. After all, isn't NOT speaking up what had led to oppression all through history, including the 1940s?

Make it a good week.

Lynn Wood DeLaMare '65

From: Roy Cook
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 21:14:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Baker's Early Years

Britt,

Thanks for sharing you memories about the Baker Village and Benning Park area. My folks moved to Columbus in 1950 and also lived on Fletcher Ave..806 was the number as I recall.

Roy class of 68

From: Cassonya Douglass
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 22:07:30 -0500
Subject: Re: Baker High School

My father was an officer at Ft. Benning in charge of the Signal Corp. I came to Columbus in 1945. I would have been in the 10th grade up north but because Baker had only 11 grades I was put back to the 9th grade. When the schools went to 12 grades they made the first year of high school 7B. Mr. Moon was the Superintendant of Schools at the time. Since we only needed 16 credits to graduate the smart kids took heavy case loads until their senior year and then they played during their senior year.PS: We never won a football game no matter how loud we cheered.

From: Bill Dawson
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 08:54:51 -0800
Subject: Baker's Early Years

Just a word or two from an old-timer...

Joy Mellen White wrote recently to tell me that I missed a lot of interesting mail last fall regarding Fletcher Avenue, since I came on the list after all that.

Britt, I was a year ahead of you, class of '52. We moved to 1004 Fletcher Avenue in 1950. Walking home from Baker was a real adventure, since we had glorious dust or mud on our unpaved street, depending on the weather. I didn't realize until Joy mentioned it today that the street was not paved until 1958, long after I had gone away to Auburn and subsequent marriage and career. My mom lived at 1004 until 1993, though, so we saw the street go through a lot of interesting changes. It's not now like it was then, but I suspect you know that.

My mom was the organist at Benning Park Baptist Church on the corner of Fletcher and Youmans for many years, until she was "called" by another church in the area. In fact, my younger brother Mike (Baker '56) came back "home" to serve as interim pastor at Benning Park for a spell either while he was still in Seminary or just after. It would have been in 1962 or 63. Mike is now a pastor in Tennessee. Bob Curlee, in Britt's '53 Baker class, was another minister produced by that small congregation. Bob caused a bait of a stir in Baptist circles a few decades ago by writing and producing a modern-day musical based on the life of Jonah. Last I heard, he was pastoring a church in Birmingham.

Britt, a lot of the names you mention are also familiar to me. Betty Godwin was a special friend who lived a block away on whatever the parallel street to the east was called (our back yards adjoined), and Beverly Shepherd lived down the street.

Baker was much different then. But, really, maybe not. We, like you, hated Columbus High, tolerated Jordan, and were ambivalent about Central. There were no other high schools in the area, except Spencer which was then all black (as we were, regrettably, all white). The Bi-City championship was much desired and we never won it.

In the middle 50's, however, (after I graduated) we became a basketball powerhouse. Bubba Ball was the coach, and a good one. Even then, though, we had our share of heartache. I remember going from Auburn over to Atlanta to see the finals of the state basketball championship in some forgotten middle-fifties year. Baker was UNDEFEATED that year, had beaten Columbus High three times during the season. Guess who we played in the championship game? Columbus again, of course. And we lost. Words can't describe the feeling.

Our teachers were interesting. Ernest Cook was our principal, Mr. Hendley taught us geometry and served as assistant principal. Mr. Reed, who somebody else mentioned, taught science, and was my home room teacher. We had a first-year Social Studies teacher, Miss Andrews, who was barely older than we were. She had just graduated from a college in Virginia, and was late getting to the school in 51-52, so didn't get her picture in the Arrowhead. That was a shame, because she was drop-dead gorgeous. Every guy in school had a crush on her, and she was the subject of many an adolescent fantasy.

Mr. Tompkins, who had only one arm, taught typing. Taking his course as an elective my senior year (because there were a lot of girls in the class) was one of the happiest accidents I ever had. My career has been spent largely in writing, and keyboards are an essential part. Mrs. Atkinson taught us English, and had more of an effect on my life than anybody else in my entire academic career. (I only wish I had told her that when I had the chance.)

I could go on and on, but will not bore you further. Just wait until the 2000 reunion, and we'll reminisce more. It's not all that far from Jackson, Mississippi, to Columbus - -- or, for that matter, to Callaway Gardens. We'll come when you worker bees set up the date, time, and place.

Bill Bill Dawson Baker '52

From: CMclendon
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:14:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Baker High School

Ms Douglass,

Thank you for your responce, please excuse me for mispelling your name on the origional request. I was asking to see if you knew the Brown doys and that one we called J R

thanks,

C Mclendon '62

From: Dell Emerson
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:35:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Baker's Early Years

Cows and chickens??... Wow! It might be a good time to seek a volunteer for a Baker High Alumni historian... This is great stuff. -

Dell Emerson '69

From: Dell Emerson
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:58:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Diversity

Interesting observation! This is probably some of the most constructive venting I've seen on the Baker Web page yet. While I never saw my youthful references to "Blue Jews" as being discrimatory, I continue to grow and realize the error of my younger days. You certainly have my "Ditto". Thanks!

Dell Emerson '69

From: Jim Davis
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:43:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Diversity

I don't think I actualy knew or knew of a Jewish person in high school, and I don't believe I or anyone I knew at Baker ever meant any disrespect to the Jewish People. I never felt particularly hurt being called a "Baker Bum" even though I had a couple of relatives that could be accurately, if somewhat insensitively described as bums. The real pain must have been felt by those at Jordan who had parents or relatives who were employed at the various cotton mills and were so insensitively, if accurately called "lintheads". We live in a much kinder and more thoughtful world today than the cruel and unjust days of my youth.

Jim Davis '66

From: SWEENEY JEANNE
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 19:36:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Diversity

Jim and all,

What wonderful comments! How insightful... I support the person that suggested that we have a writer step forward to volunteer as a historian. If one wrote the history of the past 40+ years of Baker, wouldn't it parallel what has happened others in the US?

We are a kinder, gentler nation. However, I think that there might have been a good bit a ignorance that prompted the laughter/put-downs of remarks, terms, jokes of the 50's and 60's (the times I remember best). I honestly, in high school had no idea about Jews -- first time I met someone who was Jewish was at Columbus College and I remember marveling at what a neat person she was and wondering why the derogatory terms.

Would love to hear input from others on how to best capture this special time in so many of our lives.

Jeannie Penny Sweeney '65

From: Tslscs
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:17:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: counterclockwise

I too spent all of my elementary school days at South Columbus Elementary School. I remember most Mrs. Reed as 1st grade, Miss Edwards as 2nd grade and Mrs. Lockhart as 4th grade. She (Mrs. Lockhart) was my favorite teacher of all time and I guess the one responsible for my love of old south stories and history. She and her sister lived down near Cusseta on the old family plantation complete with slave quarters. She took our class there for an outing once and some friends and I went back on our own several times. She was wonderful. I also remember the day that South Columbus Junior High now Eddy Middle School opened. We all gathered up our books and walked across the red mud field to take occupancy of the new school. All you could see down what seemed like endless white halls was red footprints. Those were the days.

Linda Stewart Sowell '66

From: Bob Brown
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 97 22:11:17 EST
Subject: Writing a BHS History

As usual, Jeannie is the one with big (and good) ideas!

I have a couple of suggestions. Er, for someone else to do the work, that is. <grin>

One way to organize such a project is with a small group of people for each five-year period in Baker's history. Each group would "cross- pollinate" with the preceeding and following group so we'd have continuity, but we'd also have a group of experts for each half-decade.

I volunteer to create (but not run) a History-L mailing list to be used exclusively as a vehicle for writing a history... no chatter. (We have Lions-L for that!) We'd need a volunteer listmaster who has some extra time and can check e-mail every day. (The mailing list idea is sort-of at odds with the group of experts idea. I have no clue which is better nor whether they can be merged.)

Finally, I think I recall that someone at Columbus State was working on, or had completed, a history of Baker. Does anybody know anything about this? Can we steal... erm... get permission to use this work? (We'd actually want a real copyright release if we were to publish it on our Web server.)

Bob '65

From: CAROL JOHANSEN
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 23:46:27 -0500
Subject: Re: counterclockwise

I also attended South Columbus Elementary 1st-6th grades. Mrs. Lockhart was also my 4th grade teacher and I remember her love for math and calling us "critters". My class also visited her home and I remember all the african violets! Mrs. Dixon, 5th grade teacher also left me with a lot of fond memories. We won't talk about Mr. Martinson, 6th grade! Certainly someone remembers his demise (the year after we went to Eddy). The (late) 50's were kinder days.

Carol Adams Johansen '69

From: Bob Brown
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 02:03:43 EST
Subject: Re: Diversity

Jeannie Sweeney wrote:
>I... had no idea about Jews...

Well, I did. My mother's best friend was Jewish, as were several other friends of the family. I thought my mother's friend was neat because she let me call her Rachel instead of Mrs. Barratt. She and her friends were regular visitors to our house. I never thought to wonder where their children went to school. Still don't know.

I grew up around Jews and thought of them only as people who weren't born Presbyterians (my mother's side) or Baptists (my father's side.) I remember the Jews of my youth as bright, pleasant, hard-working people. The same is true of my Jewish friends today.

That said, I never thought of the phrase "Blue Jews" as racially derogatory. It was a moniker like "Milwaukee Braves." Truly, we *meant* it in a derogatory sense, but we meant to derogate the people who went to Columbus High, and not the people who happened to be born Jewish. <grin>

Were we insensitive? You bet! Were we cruel? Not on purpose. Have we learned better? Mostly. --

Bob '65

From: C. Rolf Milton
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 06:20:47 UT
Subject: RE: Baker's Early Years

Mr. Bill Dawson,

There is no way you could bore anyone with those recollections. They are fascinating to us youngsters - I mean it's only been 30 years ago . . .

Rolf '67

From: on behalf of Bill Dawson
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 1997 8:54 AM To: lions-l@Baker.HS.ORG Subject: Baker's Early Years

Just a word or two from an old-timer...

Joy Mellen White wrote recently to tell me that I missed a lot of interesting mail last fall regarding Fletcher Avenue, since I came on the list after all that.

modern-day musical based on the life of Jonah. Last I heard, he was pastoring a church in Birmingham.

Bill Bill Dawson Baker '52

From: C. Rolf Milton
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 06:13:26 UT
Subject: RE: Baker History

Reading the history, told by Bakerites from the forties and fifties has convinced me that there is no way I will miss a reunion of all classes. Count me in! I don't care when it is, I will be there!

Rolf '67

From: Bill Bill Dawson
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 1997 12:33 PM Subject: Baker History

Regarding the 11-grade graduation story...

I graduated in 1952, the second class to go 12 years. So I never had an option.

Bill Bill Dawson Baker '52

From: Steve Crawford U.S. Allegiance, Inc.
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:12:18 -0800
Subject: Minor Notes from Steve Crawford '68

RE: South Columbus... I attended 1960-62 after fourth grade at James B. Key in 1960. My sixth grade teacher WAS Mr. Martinson. He was very nice. He had a cool new Buick which had an automatic headlight dimmer... WOW! High Tech. I do recall his being arrested a few years later for a little tryst with a soldier... hmmmm... I had to grab my dictionary after reading THAT story in the paper! And I still don't think I understood completely until that wonderful sex-ed class with Ms. Dunlap, my 9th grade science teacher! I mean the sex-ed class IN Ms. Dunlap's class, lest anyone be confused.

RE: The Blue Jew moniker.... no doubt that the term was used without any religious connection. As Jim Davis said, it was no more than River Rats, Lint Heads, or Baker Bums.

From: Katherine Agar
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:31:09 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: racial slurs

Just a quick response to Steve's note:

It is not possible to use a term like "Blue Jews" without a racial slur, whether it pertains to religion or not. For that reason, it is "more" than River Rats or Baker Bums, though Lint Head, with its class snobbery, is closer to being offensive in the same way. To own that "Jew," like "Rat" and "Bum" is a derogatory term for other shool's inmates, makes the rather obvious point that there was prejudice of sorts. If we had called the Spencer students "Spencer Spades," I don't think we could claim that it was like calling Bakerites "Baker Bums." Yeah, I hope we have learned something since then.

Kathy (Omelanuk) Agar '66

From: Frank N Hayson
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:14:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: racial slurs

frank '62

i used the term "blue jews" back then. please understand, i did not have a clue what it meant. i grew up an army brat. back in those days, everyone was equal. we reallly didn't care about one's color or religious persuasion. "blue jews" was just a convienient phrase for some people we didn't like. we didn't reallly mean anything by it. i assure you, most of us had no idea what it meant.

my best friend at baker was norman sassner. he was jewish. he used to make jokes about being a jew. i didn't understand them. and, i didn't care. he was just a good guy that i liked.

frank '62

From: Steve Crawford
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 13:35:22 -0800
Subject: Re: racial slurs

I submit that it's possible to use "Blue Jews" without it being a racial slur when one is young, lives in a world of gentiles and has little if no cognizance of it's singularly derogatory nature. In retrospect it's easy to define the difference as compared to "Linthead" .... but at that time it didn't hold any particular significance as far as I and anyone I knew was concerned. I'm certainly not defending the use of any of the slurs... but from my prespective, they were more rivalry than a class snobbery. Who the hell that lived in South Columbus was a snob?

Steve Crawford.

From: L. Lynn DeLaMare
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 15:10:59 -0800
Subject: Re: racial slurs

Oh, I see. So this is like Mr. Hardy's spoof logic in 10th grade geometry class:

I own a Ford. My car is a lemon. All Fords are lemons.

Or:

I didn't know it was socially unacceptable to run redlights. I didn't know anyone would/could get hurt if I ran redlights. I didn't mean to hurt anyone when I ran redlights. The people who got hurt by me when I ran redlights used the defense mechanism of making jokes about their injuries. It's okay for me to run redlights.

Is that how it works?

Lynn Wood (DeLaMare) '65

From: Jim Davis
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:32:45 -0500
Subject: Re: racial slurs

OK, all us Christians have had a say. Is there one bonifide Jew on this list to provide a Jewish perspective? If not, will someone go find one and ask them how they feel about the "Blue Jew" label? I believe a name or phrase can only be a slur if it is MEANT as one. Let's move on...

Jim '66

From: Donald Burns
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:37:18 -0500
Subject: Re: racial slurs

Perhaps not my place...... But, I recommend we cautiously broach this subject. Remember the limitations of the written word and it's perception by others; you don't necessarily have the benefit of emotion or physical expression to aid your interpretation of what was intended... sometimes, what may have been meant as humor might be misinterpreted; what may have been intended to be taken seriously might be perceived otherwise. And, hopefully, we're all educated, sensitive and cognizant of issues of race, religion and ethnic qualities.

D. Burns '71

From: Al Muehlke
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:36:39 -0700
Subject: Re: racial slurs

Yo! Baker Bums!

Let's be careful and, as Jim suggests, MOVE ON. Let's not repeat the idiocy of last fall.

Al '69

From: George Burns
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:08:32 -0500
Subject: Re: racial slurs & D. Burns '71 comments

Appropriately put Mr. Burns (from one Burns to another). Now... can we move on George '72

From: George Burns
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:11:16 -0500
Subject: Carol Caulder

Carol, Where are you? We know you're out there. So get on here and join in

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:55:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Diversity

Bravo Lynn! I was bothered, too, but was at a complete loss on how to say what you said most eloquently.

My Freshman year was spent at Munich American High School in Germany. On hot summer days, my sister and our friends would walk several miles to Dachau where there was an American run swimming pool within sight of the concentration camp. Even with that experience, it is a mark of my ignorance, that I too, used the term "Blue Jew". It wasn't until my Freshman year at UGA (when I roomed across the hall from two jewish guys) that I learned that other people besides Nazis were predudiced against Jews.

Mike '64

From: A. Frank Stringfellow
Date: 11 Mar 97 14:47:43 -0800
Subject: Fwd: racial slurs

Buddy Hayson, is that you???

I knew Norm Sassner, too. I never knew he was Jewish, I never cared, it was not important. We were in ROTC together.

Kindest regards,

A. Frank Stringfellow

Date: 11 Mar 97 13:14:41
From:"Frank N Hayson
Subject:Re: racial slurs

frank '62

my best friend at baker was norman sassner. he was jewish. he used to make jokes about being a jew. i didn't understand them. and, i didn't care. he was just a good guy that i liked.

frank '62

From: C. Rolf Milton
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 04:41:33 UT
Subject: RE: racial slurs

OK, you want a response from a "Jew", here you go. "Blue Kike" I might have had and would still have a problem with. Unfortunately, "Blue Jew" I also used, but I couldn't even begin to tell you why, in what context, except to describe anyone from that despicable educational institution.

No, I am not very religious, not as a Jew or anything else. However, as adults I doubt that anyone of us would be ignorant to utter those two little (short?) words in public today. Why? Well, let's face it, it's for the same reason that this discussion is taking up so much space, we realize it's just not right because it might OFFEND! That is what is important, not what one intends when uttering those two words.

Let's face it, most of us, today, have a problem using the adjective niggardly. It has no racial overtones or meaning, but we might offend. So, an adult with normal sensitivity does not deliberately offend. However, though the sound of those two little words did kind of raise some goose bumps on my back, I also realized that they were written in this forum to recall our youth, not to offend.

Hey, this was good for this discussion and it was a good point, but let's not belabor it. I doubt that any Baker Bum that I knew ever said it with any bigotry intended, except, of course, to desribe the students from that terrible, terrible place. WE'RE ALL FRIENDS, LET'S KEEP IT THAT WAY!

Rolf '67

I agree with Jim '66. It is only a slur if it was intended to be one. Back in the early 60's I called students from CHS "Blue Jews". I didn't even know what a Jew was at that time. Nuff said, let's move on.

Kindest regards,

A. Frank Stringfellow BHS '62 Baker Bum -- and proud of it ! No slur intended, none taken.

From: Don Stauffer
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 05:15:35 -0500
Subject: Re: racial slurs

I have to agree with Jim to a point. It's only a slur if it is meant as one but at the same time, you have to examine both perspectives.

It's amazing how much things had changed between the sixties and the eighties when I attended Baker. We never (as far as I know) labelled other schools by any but their given name. The rivalries were still there but noone had a 'nickname' as far as I can remember (which isn't much at five in the morning, granted).

I suppose if I were jewish at CHS and was branded a 'blue jew', I would be offended. I don't know about the sixties, those weren't my time and perhaps after years of integration, we had learned to be much more sensitive in those regards.

Don Stauffer |

From: Steve Crawford
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 06:32:34 -0800
Subject: Sol & Harry Cohn's

So, one fine Spring day in 1966 I walk into Mr. Strealdorf's office and explain to him how I just wasn't cut out to be a student.... it was a waste of time... I was doomed to fail... there was no future in it! He asked "So, what do you want to do? Sell shoes the rest of your life?" I replied that that seemed a mighty fine option as compared to high school.

Well, the next thing you know, I end up in DCT and have an afternoon job at Sol & Harry's. Sol & Harry both were every active at that time as was their mother "Mama Cohn," who ran the cash register....

But thats THOSE stories.... and anybody who wants to swap Sol & Harry tales be sure to look me up at the BAKER MILLENIUM REUNION!

What was interesting in retrospect is that this was 1966... pre-integration and there certainly were White Only restrooms and water fountains abundant. Yet, in Sol & Harry's, there was NO prejudice.

The Customer was King! I waited on many a poor, black sodbuster who came in on Saturday for those new shoes, and I learned many lessons of salesmanship from those mercantile brothers... not to mention their mother who one day chased a large, burly, fellow up lower Broadway until he gave up that Coke bottle for which he failed to pay the three cents deposit. (Don't bother that it was Saturday afternoon and the line at the register was 10 deep!)

One could actually learn a lot about prejudice and tolerance in Columbus, Georgia in the 1960's. I know I did... and those experiences have served me well.

On that note, let's dwell on the positive aspects of our experiences. There's plenty of negativity to revisit should we choose... but it's where we are now that counts...

As mentioned by others, it's so dangerous to delve into the depths on a forum such as this where there are no inflections, no overt smiles, no body language that is so important to the art of communication.

Ok. Ok. Long enough. I'm out of here. But I do have to mention that as I drove to work this morning under the starswept Central Oregon Skies... there it was... big as you please... A comet with a long halo tail... WOW!

From: Pam Williams
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:33:59 -0500
Subject: RE: racial slurs - reply from Pam

C.Rolf Milton,

you're so right and we are all friends. The former '67 CHS Drum Major happens to live near us, and teaches band at a rival high school. We never felt the need to rehash the rivalry. In fact, his daughter, a senior at this rival high school, and my son, a frosh at Furman, were partners last year in a performing song and dance group that included kids from all three county high schools. That group calls itself "Class Act" and they surely are. Rivalries are put aside as they perform for the likes of "Leadership Georgia" and other civic groups. She will be joining my James at Furman next year.

Let's be a "Class Act" with our discussion groups. This is such a great way to keep in touch and we've got to remember that other people are looking at our pages. That professor from Univ. of Queensland who found us was really impressed with our group. He and I have e-mailed several times and he thinks he's found a BHS grad in Australia for us.

Changing the subject - but Debbie Simmons '68 and I are having lunch next week. She's so excited to hear about you all and will be getting her home computer soon. Her brother, Bert, is in Tokyo and she'll give me his e-mail address next week.

Take care, everyone. To leave with some humor - What's brown, wrinkled,and lives in a bell tower?

- - The lunchbag of Notre Dame!

Pam Wms. '68

From: Bob Brown
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 12:00:22 EST
Subject: RE: racial slurs

Lynn

Sort-of. I wasn't defending our actions, which, from the vantage of 1997, were indefensible. I was defending our motives. We were, in the religious sense, innocent. As I said in an earlier message, "Have we learned better? Mostly."

So, your analogy is right on, and we were wrong, but we were wrong out of innocence (or ignorance, or stupidity) but not out of malice.

Bob '65

From: Katherine Agar
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 13:59:09 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: slurs and arrows

Re: slurs

Why are appeals to "drop this now and move on" always preceded by a fairly lengthy commentary designed to get in the final word? Hey, I want to hear what everybody has to say. How else will we know what was "really" in people's minds? People will drop it when they are ready.

Why does memory lane have to be unblemished to be valuable? The Baker time in the sixties was bitter-sweet. It was the best of times and the worst of times, and we goofed a lot of times.

And to my brother, Mike, thanks for the reminder of what happened at Dachau when "We didn't know."

Kathy Agar

From: BERCO95
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:16:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: racial slurs

Lynn -

Look what you started - another winter revolution. Lets get off our soap boxes. The opinions, prejudices, and pet-names of the 60's is a real part of the past. Lets talk about them as we wish. Novelist do!! On the other hand lets not be so presumptuous and judgemental. Lets be nice out there (smile).

Bruce Emerson 67

From: BERCO95
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:46:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 67 Reunion

Good news! I spoke with Sue Jenkins yesterday. We have been discussing the details of the 1967 reunion and Sue has been able to book the Trade Center in Columbus, for the evening of the 2nd of August. I know, I know, it is hot then, but many of us still have school-age children and we must pick a time when we can capture the largest audience - that's summer. By the way, other class members are welcome to register and attend. We have lots of details to work out. I need your suggestions on the following:
What Golf Course do we use. Fort Benning worked very well last year. * Do we Golf on Friday or Saturday * Do we want to have a special social function, during this same time, for those who don't care to play golf? What would you suggest.

* For those of us who want to meet on Friday night informally, where do you want to do this? Last years place didn't work out too well.

* Do we want to reserve the pool or part of the Hilton for daytime activities on Saturday?

* Since the Hilton is across the street from the Trade Center we will book rooms there for anyone interested - let us know if you are interested?

* Do we want a sit-down dinner or simply pupu's (Hawaiian for finger food)?

* Do you have a special band in the Columbus area that you would like to recommend?

* Was there anything in particular at the last reunion you attended that you would like to see repeated?

* Was there anything at the last reunion you attended that you would not like repeated (other than Stanley taking over the band at their break - rumor has it that Stanley wants an encore appearance - stay tuned)?

This is enough for now. Please reply to myself DELETED or Sue DELETED, or to this chat line. thanks

Bruce Emerson 1967 Baker Bum

From: Frank N Hayson
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:53:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: racial slurs

frank:

buddy here again.

a second thought...we can try to get together when you are in sf. failing that, i will be in columbus in late april to visit sister & kids. that will be a second chance.

by the way, you mentioned that you live "near the airport" in columbus. my sister also lives "near the airport". she lives on northgate in some neighborhood i can't recall. you may be neighbors!!

it was great to hear from you, guy.

buddy

From: Randy Achey
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:05:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: racism

You know, many of us had no intention of racism or even knowledge of Jewish persons, but I can still remember the look on Coach Pete Jenkins face (yes he is Jewish) the first time he heard the term "Blue Jew". I forget who muttered the offending statement, but Coach Jenkins wore him out about racism and talking about things he knew nothing about. So yes, we did learn long ago that the term was not the proper or correct terminology we should be using.

Randy Achey '70'

From: George Burns
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:23:44 -0500
Subject: 67 Reunion & '72?... maybe

Bruce, '72's 25 yr. reunion does not seem to drawing any interest... as of yet. Would you entertain some of youngsters joining yours? You guys talk it over and if its agreeable; we can work out the details. If not......

SOMEBODY FROM '72.... LETS DO IT. thank you

From: Frank N Hayson
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:57:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: racial slurs

let's move on...

From: Frank N Hayson
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:02:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: racial slurs

give me a break... how pretentious can you be...

From: Frank N Hayson
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:06:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Diversity

thx for that

From: RethaGA
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:56:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: racial slurs

I'm sure Bruce Emerson is incorrect in his statement that "Blue Jew" was a pet name. Racism and those fighting racism was prominent in the 60s and is prominent now. The idea of dismissing it as "pet names" or "let's get on with life" is reprehensible. These biases should and must be discussed so we do not forget.

Retha Ross Meier l966

From: Donald Burns
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:46:17 -0500
Subject: Re: racial slurs

I'll tell you; the "racial slurs" topic is getting old....bordering on a week of discussion. I suggest that if anyone wishes to continue the dialogue on this subject, they take it to another forum; e-mail individuals whom you feel would benefit from the contribution....

Time for a fresh topic. 'How about........"I remember when I was in high school and we were out drinking his dad's rum and suddenly we saw these flying saucers"......?

From: Bob Brown
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 22:34:57 EST
Subject: Flying Saucers

And they landed on the road in front of us. Somehow they drained all the gas out of the car and blew a hole in the muffler. We were out in the sticks beyond Sand Hill, and it took *hours* to trudge to a gas station and back.

When we finally all got back home, our parents thought we were just parked somewhere necking, and they grounded us for a week. Then they remembered about the hole in the muffler and grounded us for a *month*.

(Did you know that a '54 Chevy does a *great* backfire if you get going fast, turn the ignition off for a few seconds, then turn it back on? I did. Did you know that if you do that a few times, it blows a hole in the muffler? I didn't.)

Brown '65

From: A. Frank Stringfellow
Date: 12 Mar 97 16:40:48 -0800
Subject: Fwd: racial slurs

You go Boy!!!

Kindest regards,

A. Frank Stringfellow BHS '62

From: A. Frank Stringfellow
Date: 12 Mar 97 18:18:38 -0800
Subject: Fwd: racial slurs

OK, Enough! BLUE JEW is Not, repeat NOT a racial slur. Judaism is a religion NOT a race. It could be called a religious slur, but NOT a racial slur. Jewish people and the people of Israel do not constitute a race. Jewish people constitute a religion and people from Israel constitute a nationality.

Therefore, and in conclusion, can we get off this RACIAL SLUR business when referring to BLUE JEWS. It is not RACIAL!

Besides, when we used the term in High School, we were all young and stupid. We did not know any better then. However, now we are all adults and hopefully more enlightened and until this forum, I don't think I had used the term BLUE JEW in the last thirty-some odd years.

How about that damned idiot in the White House? White Water, Vince Foster, Travelgate, FBI files, accepting million$ in donations from foreigners (strictly against the law), Sexual Harassment lawsuits, and God the list goes on and on and on.

Kindest regards,

A. Frank Stringfellow

From: Burns Rick
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 9:03:00 -0500
Subject: Mischievous fiction?

Here's a story for you. You can determine if its real or not.

One Friday night after a hard week at school, two guys and two girls decided to go for a joy ride on Fort Benning. Well, one thing led to another and the conversation led the two guys (figuring that they would get lucky) asked the two girls if they would like to see a herd of deer (kind of like asking a girl if she wanted to see the submarine races at Lake Oliver).

Now for those of you who are not familiar with Fort Benning, there is a large "jump zone" just south and west of Lawson Army Airfield called Fryar Field. This field is plowed and planted on a regular basis with corn and oats to attract wildlife and promote conservation on the base. Needless to say, the place is covered up with deer. At certain times of the year, the deer "herd up" to form large groups and they come to the field to feed, especially at night.

Upon arrival at the field, the cerimonial 6 pack was opened, the Volkswagen was turned off, and they stated waiting for the deer to show up. About 15 minutes went by when one of the boys noticed some movement on the horizon. The headlights were switched back on and wouldn't you know it, about 35-40 deer were right in front of the car. Excited beyond wetting their pants, they cranked up the car and immediatly started chasing the deer across the field, cutting doughnuts around the deer and playing cowboys.

Un be known to them, the Fort Benning Game Warden, Military Police and Alabama Fish and Game Warden had been staking out the field trying to catch a pesky poacher that had been working the area. All of a sudden, about 50 little blue lights were every where.

At the Provost Marshalls office, the boys and girls were sweating out the arrival of the officer on duty, fearing what would happen next, especially when the word got back to mom and dad. Lucky for them, the officer on duty was the father of another girl at Baker whom they all were friends with. After a stiff lecture by the officer, they were all let go and not another word was said about the incident until this day.

From: Rosanna Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 13 Mar 1997 10:36:50 EDT
Subject: Sol & Harry Cohn's

Hail! Frail humans... See Hale Bopp comet 5AM Look at sky.... Look at stars.... Know perspective See BIG picture... Oh what Tales could YOU tell... Hale Bopp! ************************************************************************ ****************** So, one fine Spring day in 1966 I walk into Mr. Strealdorf's office and explain to him how I just wasn't cut out to be a student.... it was a waste of time... I was doomed to fail... there was no future in it! He asked "So, what do you want to do? Sell shoes the rest of your life?" I replied that that seemed a mighty fine option as compared to high school. Well, the next thing you know, I end up in DCT and have an afternoon job at Sol & Harry's. Sol & Harry both were every active at that time as was their mother "Mama Cohn," who ran the cash register.... But thats THOSE stories.... and anybody who wants to swap Sol & Harry tales be sure to look me up at the BAKER MILLENIUM REUNION!

What was interesting in retrospect is that this was 1966... pre-integration and there certainly were White Only restrooms and water fountains abundant. Yet, in Sol & Harry's, there was NO prejudice.

One could actually learn a lot about prejudice and tolerance in Columbus, Georgia in the 1960's. I know I did... and those experiences have served me well.

On that note, let's dwell on the positive aspects of our experiences. There's plenty of negativity to revisit should we choose... but it's where we are now that counts...

From: A. Frank Stringfellow
Date: 13 Mar 97 09:14:28 -0800
Subject: Re: Fwd: racial slurs

I suspect that much of the discussion on this issue have been somewhat apologetic in nature derived from guilt feelings. I contend that "most" who used the term, then in high school, probably did not fully understand. Though most or all understand all too well now.

I do not understand your belief that Jew is a race, anymore than Catholic or Baptist is a race. Many Russians were Jews, many Germans, Austrians and Polanders were Jews and probably nearly all of the had fair skin color. However, there are also many Jews from the middle east countries of Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria and Saudi Arabia whose skin color was somewhat darker. If we identify the known races of Caucasian, Negroid, Mongoloid and Red, how can you equate the "races" of the Jews from Europe with fair skin to the Jews of the mid-east with darker skin? You can't. Jews do NOT constitute a race. What binds them together under the umbrella of Jew, is their religion, not the color of their skin. In your own words you used "presumed".

It has been my experience that Jewish people are far too sensitive about this issue. If someone throws a slander at you and you respond, it becomes an issue. But, if you do not respond, or just ignore, usually it just goes away and is forgotten and is not an issue. What took place 50+ years ago is history and should be treated as such, recorded, remembered, and learned from; but not rehashed and constantly being debated. It's history, let's get on with our lives, move forward, the future lies in front of you not behind you.

Kindest regards,

A. Frank Stringfellow BHS '62

Date: 13 Mar 97 07:55:54
From: Katherine Agar

Once again, some of you are telling us to move on after making a series of "final word" pronouncements on the subject. There is a real difference of opinion here, and it's kind of interesting. You are right that Judaism is a religion, but wrong in assuming that "Blue Jew" is not a racial slur. Jews have been falsely regarded as a race, and the derogatory terms or labels draw as much on that fallacy as on the religion. The presumption that Jews were a race lead to the slaughter during WWII. If people are going to state that derogatory comments about Jews are not racial in nature because the Jews are not a race, I will continue to argue the point, and anyone who likes can e-mail me directly if you want it off the list.

I do agree that lots of kids were oblivious to the barb in that epithet in Columbus, but many were not, and those who started it were not. When I was there, it was clear that the epithet was associated with the sterotype that Jews were money-grubbers; the kids at Columbus were presumed to be more affluent (some of them Jewish, but many not) and, therefore, they were "Blue Jews." When the term first appeared on the list, it was used unselfconsciously, as if all these years had not produced the awareness that this was a problem. I believe that is why Lynn objected. And why should she be called "pretentious" by anyone for doing so? She wasn't attacking the person who said it or the motives, just pointing out that it made her uncomfortable. A number of others agreed. This discussion will die a natural death like all of them do, so why worry?

Agar is a Jewish name. Do I have to identify myself to gain credibility? I was pretty thoughtless in high school too. But I married a Jew and I have a Jewish daughter. My brother and I came to Fort Benning after seeing Dachau, and maybe hearing "Blue Jew" in Columbus meant a little more, I don't know. As to the remark that we don't seem to find it necessary to discuss the other racial issues of the sixties, read the digest. We discussed that some time ago. I find the assumption that "everything was equal" in the armed services hilarious. We rode buses to Baker with our black neighbors from the Fort who then had to transfer to other buses to go to the black schools. They were denied admission into the State Honors Program at first through the application of higher standards for black applicants.

As I said, it was the best of times and the worst of times, and this is all part of our history. I don't think we have to clean up our act for anyone who might be looking in. And I'll say no more on the subject unless someone wants to talk privately. You're all great bunch to hash things out with and to fill in some of the missing parts of the Baker experience.

Kathy (Omelanuk) Agar '66

From: Donald Burns
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:28:53 -0500
Subject: Take it elsewhere.....

Man oh man are you guys prolific! Please, folks; there are other forums for this race/religion/ethnic issue. Don't tie up this avenue with that discussion. If you wish to continue that particular dialogue, send e-mail to the individuals who wish to participate or set up your own private chat room, but don't use this format which broadcasts to all.... Be a little more considerate. I suspect most of us are comfortable with who we are, how we treat others and cognizant of issues regarding race, religion and human rights....

And where is Mike Stokes when you need him??

From: JBolles174
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:35:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Jimmy or John Bolles

Sunshine I am married to Jimmy !! John is my brother -in-law and he is married to Kathy Ball. Also TERESA Pait Biesecker is my baby sister and W.J.Orr is my brother -in-law. Yes Jimmy is still teaching Tae-Kwon-Do and has many of his students teaching in Columbus,Ga. .

We have a student who owns Won's Karate in Phenix city,Al. Jimmy there every Wednesday if you would like to see him. We tried to HELP out Sounth Columbus, keep the kids off the street for 9 years and then the Gulf War hurt us financialy and We moved to our place on LAKE HARDING.

Jeannie SWEENEY '65 talked about the lake alittle last week. She mentioned about THE BLEVINS Place . The Blevins are our friends and We are LOOKING FOR TREVIS ALLAN BLEVINS (HE WENT TO COLUMBUS HIGH IN '62) . His DAD, MR. BLEVINS IS REAL BAD OFF AT ST. FRANCIS HOSIPTAL . IF anyone knows anything of Trevis Please email me real soon. He was last know to be in Nashville TN. Somewhere near EAST SIDE DRIVE. WORKING FOR A TEMP. SERVICE!! PLEASE HELP US!

THANKS JANICE PAIT BOLLES AND JIMMY BOLLES TOO '66 & ' 62

From: katherine.stroup
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 15:25:28 CST
Subject: Re[2]: Fwd: racial slurs

Very well said, Mr. Stringfellow. I wholeheartedly agree with all of your comments. AND it's time to move on.

Tiny Tinker Stroup '75

From: SWEENEY JEANNE
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 17:24:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Jimmy or John Bolles

Janice,

are we talking about the same Blevins? Dorris Ann Blevins Gray has a florist in Columbus. I thought her older brother's name was Travis, not Trevis and that he was working for her (at least he was at one point). Dorris Ann also had a younger brother, Troy, who was murdered in Hawaii a long time ago. Troy ran track at Baker.

Jeannie Penny Sweeney '65

From: JANICE PAIT BOLLES
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 18:07:19 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Jimmy or John Bolles

Jeannie '65 ,

Yes we are ! Mr. Harry Blevins is very ill and Dorris Ann ok for me to look for her brother Trevis Allen Blevins . This wednesday was a week for Mr. Blevins to be in the hosiptal and he had a double bypass. Then a hole was found in his right lung and he had more and more problems . Please every one help us find Trevis Allan Blevins THANKS JANICE PAIT BOLLES '

From: CK
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 17:20:16 -0800
Subject: Re: Take it elsewhere.....

Yes, please. I am thinking about removing myself from the Baker list. I figured the list was for old friends to keep in touch. I don't want my mailbox filled with messages that should be addressed individually. Please folks, let's stay on subject, Baker High!

From: katherine.stroup
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 17:55:45 CST
Subject: Re[2]: Jimmy or John Bolles

Jeannie, My name is Tiny Tinker Stroup, BHS '75 and I live in Nashville, TN. If you could give me a little more information, I would be more than happy to assist. I don't have e-mail at home, only work, but check my messages every 20 minutes. Let me know if I can be of assistance.

Tiny Tinker Stroup '75

From: Frank N Hayson
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:41:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Jimmy or John Bolles

this is out of nowhere. i just wanted to note that "tiny tinker" is one of the neater names i've ever heard.

frank '62

From: Frank N Hayson
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:48:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: slurs and arrows

ms agar:

i believe you sent me a message a few days ago. i wish to reply but i can't find the the text of that message. i believe we had a misunderstanding that i would like to clear up. i am Deleted

. i look forward to hearing from you.

frank

From: Frank N Hayson
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 20:24:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Take it elsewhere.....

i just sent an email to webmaster bob in support of your position. this is not supposed to be a personal email system.

frank

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 05:43:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Blue-ish

Hey guys. I just remembered the movie "Yellow Submarine". Remember the Blue Meanies and the great sequence "Blue-ish, I didn't know you were Blue-ish."

We revisited all the great food from our eras, how about great movies:

Psycho - Kathy and I saw that with Connie Morgan at a drive in.

Cat Balleau - Dick Stewart and Herb Martin and I nearly died laughing at that one.

Tom Jones - Dr. Kirby talked a bunch of us debaters into seeing that instread of Cleopatra after we came back from a debate in Atlanta. Boy was he right!

Then for Music there was Larry James - "LJ the DJ" at WDAK and listening to Dick Biondi (and later) Art Roberts on WLS in Chicago. I met Dick Biondi about a year ago. He is DJ on an oldies station here in Chigago. I told him how a bunch of us used to listen him down in Columbus. He said that he had a lot of folks from that era tell him that they were at sea during the Cuban Missle Crises and all the stations being jammed by the Cubans, but they could get him on the 50,000 clear channel. He is a genuinely nice guy and was really touched that folks still remember him.

Anyone remember the joke that got him kicked off WLS? I remember one, but not the 1st one. I actually heard the 2nd one.

Enough of memory lane for tonight.

Name that movie!

Mike '64

From: Roy Cook
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 06:20:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Mischievous fiction?

Rick Wrote.......deer herding.

I for one, believe that story, however the lights back then were red...by the way Rick, I didn't know you had a VW.

Roy 68

From: Randy Achey
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 06:21:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: New subject

Since we've worn out the last subject, I submit a new one for this board of higher thinking and reasoning. If you are choking a Smurf, what color does it turn?

Randy Achey '70'

From: Roy Cook
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 06:48:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Blue-ish

Mike,

I do remember "LJ the DJ", and the famous "REBEL YELL".....from Big Johnny Reb, WDAK, then someone's feelings got hurt and it was off the air in a flash. Then there was WEE REBEL...for W R B L. The Rozel Show....Miss Patsy's Playhouse...Cap O'Hap show....The Col Chick show (Alex Bush, still lives here in Columbus).........Hope this brings back some fond memories.

Sunshine 68

From: Roy Cook
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 06:51:13 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: New subject

Randy,

Glad to see there are early risers reading the board so early in the morn. Tell Paul hello for me.

Sunshine 68

From: George Burns
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:27:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Mischievous fiction?

And around that same time frame, Colonel Murdock was the Provost Marshal at Ft. Benning (Mark & Kevin's dad). He was a wild man and then some.

Then there was Mark and Susan Latham's dad... the post commander, Willard Latham. The man loved to run.... for days

And you're correct about the lights being red. The fun thing about running the ranges, was the boony hopping with the jeeps. Beat you to death... great for the kidneys

George '72

From: George Burns
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:30:32 -0500
Subject: www address

Somebody please give up the WWW address for Baker. I lost ALL of my bookmarks and have brain cramp, and can't remember it.

George '72

From: George Burns
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:28:20 -0500
Subject: New subject

probably the same color as a chicken

From: Thomas M. Mowery
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:22:27 -0500
Subject: Re: www address

George Burns wrote:

It's: http://www.Baker.HS.org/

Later,

Tom Mowery ('73)

From: Frank N Hayson
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:07:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Blue-ish

mike '64

my sister used to date LJ the DJ. Larry - last i heard - is a station manager somewhere in Texas. boy, does that bring back memories.

frank

From: George Burns
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:27:38 -0500
Subject: Re: www address

Thanks Tom.... preciate dat

From: Frank N Hayson
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:12:13 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Blue-ish

the big johnny reb rebel yell!!!! i can't believe it. i haven't thought of that in more years than i would like to account for.

as i responded to a previous message, LJ is now a station manager somewhere in Texas. he still stays in contact with my sister ( they used to date).

thx for a giggle.

frank

From: Frank N Hayson
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:17:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Blue-ish

ok i give up.

what were the jokes? (i have a vague memory of the controversey but - in old age - memory fails me.)

frank '62

From: Keith Pratt
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:20:57 -0600
Subject: Re: Fwd: racial slurs

Katherine,

Wish I had known you were in Nashville, I was just there on Monday and Tuesday, working with the American Association for State and Local History, may be doing some more consulting work with them so if I ever get back there I'll let ya know.

Keith Pratt

From: Rosanna Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 14 Mar 1997 09:20:50 EDT
Subject: Re: Blue-ish

IS this A. Frank Stringfellow?

From: Frank N Hayson
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:34:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Blue-ish

wrong.

this is frank (buddy) hayson

frank stringfellow is out there somewhere, though.

later.

frank

From: Frank N Hayson
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:52:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Minor Notes from Steve Crawford '68

does anyone but me remember the monikor "pig farmers" for bhs types?

maybe i'm too old.

frank '62

From: Katherine Agar
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:27:05 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: New subject

I propose Red.

kathy Agar

From: Foucher
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 12:35:38 -0800
Subject: Re: New subject

OK! I say green! Rick 73

From: Katherine Agar
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:54:13 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Minor Notes from Steve Crawford '68

Frank,

I do. My English teacher (junior year), Jan Tilton, told us a story about her student days at Baker. She said a guy walking across the school grounds stopped her and asked, "Have you ever seen a stuck pig?" Then he gestured toward another student he had just stabbed in a fight.

Kathy (Omelanuk) Agar '66

From: Katherine Agar
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:57:03 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Blue-ish

"Goldfinger." Saw it with Freddie Sellers right after he got his driver's license.

From: Foucher
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:27:50 -0800
Subject: Re: Blue-ish

Did any body see "It`s a Mad Mad Mad World" Saw it when it fitst came out, downtown, for about 35 cents. Rick 73

From: Carol Whitcomb
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 12:39:09 -0500
Subject: Re: New subject -Reply

I say purple! Carol '74

From: Frank N Hayson
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:04:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Minor Notes from Steve Crawford '68

Kathy

that was cruel (but funny)

frank

From: L. Lynn DeLaMare
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:15:42 -0800
Subject: Tornado

Just saw on the TODAY SHOW that you Columbusites had some wild weather last night. Hope you are all okay; the reports are that no one was hurt, but sometimes news reports are disjointed at best right after an event.

Lynn '65

From: L. Lynn DeLaMare
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:39:17 -0800
Subject: Movies

No, but (and now we're talking OLD!) when I lived out on Floyd Road the boy who cut our grass (Jinx something) and I were driven to the theater downtown (by his mother, I think) to see none other than PORK CHOP HILL. It was sort of a date. We were eleven years old. Almost forgot....

My parents took all four of us girls to see MEIN KAMPF and LA VITA DOLCE or whatever that Fellini movie was. Artistes they were. So progressive and yet so repressive. Sort of sent us mixed messages as teenagers....

Lynn '65

From: Foucher
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:30:55 -0800
Subject: Re: Tornado

Some trees down, power lines, other minor dameged buildings, but no one was hurt.

Rick 73

From: Frank N Hayson
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:52:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: New subject -Reply

i saw something a couple of messages back about lawson field (although i don't think they called it that).

there was an old airfield beyond lawson field - i bellive it was just next to the chatahochee river. - but the name escapes me - i remember it fondly and regretfully.

i'm gonna tell a story here. do you guy's have time for this?

ok, this is mid 60's. i'm driving a '55 T-bird.. i've got my honey (later, my wife) and i am acting stupid. i'm doing donuts and other very stupid things all over this airport strip. it was raining & wet so that made it great fun. but then, the damn thing dropped out of third gear into reverse and stripped every gear but third. now, all i've got is third gear. have you ever tried to climb that damned hill up from lawson field with only third gear? do you know what a burnt-out clutch smells like? my future wife was not impressed.

what the hell. she married me anyway.

ok, guys. this is just a story about how stupid i was in those old days. i'm waiting for your stories. (and, i've got more).

From: becky craig
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:33:30 -0600
Subject: Re: counterclockwise

Steve, I went to South Columbus and Eddy Jr. from 56-65. Lived in Riverland Terrace (Hawrhorne Dr./Ramsey Road). There was a big plantation house across the road from So. Columbus Elem. We would catch the horses in the pasture and ride them when walking home from school, long before So Lumpkin Rd became a four lane. Becky '69

From: Frank N Hayson
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:41:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Tornado

glad to hear it, guy. wish you well

frank

From: Joy White
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 11:43:35 -0800
Subject: Col Chick Show

I appeared on the Col Chick show twice! How's that?!*! The first time we met Bozo the