From: Dunn, Keith
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 14:39:51 -0500
Subject: RE: Alumni in Colorado
Hi Charmaine,
Please say "Hi" to Bill for me ... If he is the same Bill Miller I remember, we were classmates in kindergarten, first,and second grade at Benning Hills Elementary ... Bill and his brothers were fixtures on Lion basketball teams for years and years ... I think his brother Eddie was part of the `65/`66 team (along with Milton Caffey, Ricky Richardson, Mike Stokes, et al) that won 29 straight games ... Seems like he had an older brother named George and another one between he and Eddie (can't remember the name) ...
Stay Warm! It has been 80 degrees here (Florida) for two weeks ...
Keith Dunn '69
From: Sheila Rambeck
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:27:58 +0000
Subject: RE: Alumni in Colorado
At 07:39 PM 1/3/97 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi Charmaine,
>
>Please say "Hi" to Bill for me ... If he is the same Bill
Miller I
>etc.
This came to me (Sheila Ogden Rambeck) instead of Charmaine. Sorry! You might want to try again!
Sheila
From: Buddy & Patty Miller
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 06:13:26
+0900
Subject: I Made It
Well it took some time, but finally I got Internet Access at home. (Being overseas (Japan) has it's limitations). I come from a BHS Family. My mother (Inge (Gott) '57?), and my brothers Rusty ('80), Pete ('84), & Jeff ('86) are all still in Columbus. I was the only one to join the military and leave. I'm looking forward to the discussions going on @Baker and hope to hear from other '76ers.
Buddy Miller '76
From: Bakere
Date: 6 Jan 1997 09:48:20 EDT
Subject: Re:
@Baker, etc
Here it is the New Year and I am reviewing "things incomplete".
This "loose end" remains untied..... Still did not get any
reply...this system is very strange at Ft Bragg, NC. If anyone wishes to email
me it must be done by the following email address:
ddn:bakere@bbs.bragg.army.mil
I also have another address on the metropolitan area network here at Bragg, but that will be changing shortly to NT (I will wait before giving that email address. I suspect that much mail has not reached me for incorrect email address...please put the address in all lower case letters and add no spaces. It might not make a difference in some servers but to some one capital letter will throw it off. Ours is what my grandma called, "persnickitty"..
Elaine Graves Baker (R. Elaine Groves '67 yearbook...)
From: Bakere
Date: 6 Jan 1997 10:47:32 EDT
Subject:
Epidemic proportions
This is my wish for the New Year for each and every entity, including Earth itself. Just thought I would share this with you..... Our meditation group in Fayetteville has discussed this phenomina. Our conclusion is that Inner Peace is the 'by product' of "knowing yourself".
SYMPTOMS OF INNER PEACE
Be on the lookout for symptoms of inner peace. The hearts of a great many have already been exposed to inner peace and it is possible that people everywhere could come down with it in epidemic proportions. This could pose a serious threat to what has, up to now, been a fairly stable condition of conflict in the world.
Some signs to look for:
* A tendency to think and act spontaneously rather than on fears
based on past experiences.
* An unmistakeable ability to enjoy each moment.
* A loss of interest in judging other people.
* A loss of interest in interpreting the actions of others.
* A loss of interest in conflict.
* A loss of the ability to worry. (This is a very serious symptom.)
* Frequent, overwhelming episodes of appreciation.
* Contented feelings of connectedness with others and nature.
* Frequent attacks of smiling.
* An increasing tendency to let things happen rather than make them happen.
* An increased susceptibility to the love offered by others as well as the uncontrollable urge to extend it.
From: PBR5000
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:45:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Epidemic proportions
Inner-peace is the by-product of knowing Jesus Christ as your Personal Saviour.
From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 23:04:20 -0500
Subject: Welcome to Buddy Miller
Welcome Buddy.
Where are you stationed in Japan?
I went to 4th grade in Tagajo, 5th in Sendai, then transferred to Yokohama to finish 5th. In Yokohama, lived in Yamashita park, right on the harbor. Think the American housing was probably torn down and the park restored longa ago.
Mike '64
From: Bob Brown
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 97 23:08:44 EST
Subject:
The Need for Speed, Part II
About a year ago I posted a message titled "The Need for Speed" in which I described some of the things we were doing to make the @Baker pages quick to load. Mostly that meant simplified graphics and relatively small pages.
Today we got the next boost in speed. The organization which hosts the @Baker server changed from a 56K Internet link to a T-1 link. That means that pages from @Baker get squirted toward the Internet up to 25 times faster than they did last week!
If you dial in to the Internet, you probably won't notice any difference, but if you have a fast link, you should be able to notice the change.
We'll still keep the pages small and the graphics simple, but we're in the big leagues as far as our attachment to the Internet goes!
--Bob '65
From: Buddy & Patty Miller
Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 18:39:55
+0900
Subject: Re: Welcome to Buddy Miller
Mike, I'm stationed on Okinawa at Kadena Air Base. It's a beautiful
island with lot's of beaches and a very mild climate (much like that of south
Florida). I've been here for two years now and with one more year left am
looking forward to returning to the states.
Buddy
From: A. Frank Stringfellow
Date: 07 Jan 97 05:19:04 -0800
Subject: Inner Peace
Inner Peace is the knowledge of and self-confidence that all things done by you are for the good rather than the bad.
Kindest regards,
A. Frank Stringfellow
From: George Burns
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:10:52 -0500
Subject: Re: Epidemic proportions
I'm happy for you and your beliefs. Personally, I am Agnostic and my beliefs don't run the same roads as yours. But thanks for your concerns and sharing that with me.
I'll make you a deal. You don't push your religious beliefs on me and I won't push my doubts about religion and its place on you. How about that for an even swap?
From: Sherri Tullia
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 15:28:17 -0500
Subject: Ooooops!!!
Hi there Baker High School alumni, A few of you have sent e-mail to my husband, Steve Tullia '79, and probably are wondering why you haven't heard from him. Well, yours truly did not save them as she thought she had... so, please drop us another line! Our address is: deleted.
Thanks.
Sherri Tullia
From: Bakere
Date: 8 Jan 1997 09:18:18 EDT
Subject: Re:
Julius Edgar Mull
Actually, I know he has a sister named Wanda. They lived in Shaffenburg (sp) near Hoerst, Germany. I think he "dormed" in Frankfurt to attend the American School, as my brother Clarence Ronald GrAves "dormed" in Chateroux, France (1952, 1953 or 1954) in order to attend the American High School there (My brother, Ronny Graves, came home on weekends). I think Eddie had only one sister and 4 brothers. There names were Conrad, William (Bill), Donald (Donnie), and Douglas, if I am not mistaken. Elaine Baker (senior class, R. Elaine 'Groves' in 67 BHS Yearbook....)
From: C. Richard Tolbert
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 09:37:48 -0500
Subject: Re: Epidemic proportions
Kathy, Actually, my comment made perfect sense. You just failed to get it.
Richard
From: PBR5000
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:33:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Epidemic proportions
I failed to get it also, maybe you should explain to us Christians what you meant.
From: Burns Rick SCI
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:24:00 -0500
Subject: Epidemic proportions
Once upon a time, there was a nice little home page created were high school graduates (now grown ups) could exchange e.mail and keep in touch. Then one day, someone made a comment that some one else didn't like. Well, one thing led to another and before you know it, the world ended in nuclear holocost.
My dad taught me a couple of things before I left home:
1. Don't mess where you eat. 2. Think twice about what you are going to say and maybe you won't need to say it at all. 3. If you want to stay a friend, don't ask for money. 4. Don't discuss politics or religion - it's bound to end up in an argument.
Don't know about the rest of you, but I would rather read interesting stuff than a bunch of snide comments.
From: Dehanza Shreen Rogers
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 14:02:56
-0500
Subject: Re: Epidemic proportions
At 03:24 PM 1/8/97 -0500, you wrote: THANK YOU RICK - THIS IS REALLY GETTING ON MY NERVES AND I'M THINKING OF UNSUBSCRIBING.
- -daye. CLASS OF '94 -
From: Jim Cleveland
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 15:13:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Epidemic proportions
You guys are acting like a couple of kids. I think I will Unsubscribe also. I don't need this!!!
From: katherine stroup
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 97 14:18:19 CST
Subject: Re: Epidemic proportions
That is the most intelligent and interesting thing I have read all day. I try to incorporate those 4 items into my daily living as well.
Tiny Tinker Stroup
From: Bakere
Date: 8 Jan 1997 15:43:08 EDT
Subject:
Epidemic Proportions!
Pardon est moi. There was never any ulterior motive connected with the Topic called Epidemic Proportions. It was included in a Thank You note to me for a gift I gave to the daughter of a CPA friend of mine who singlehandedly raised a daughter, whose wedding I attended recently. The little ditty on 'inner peace' was not meant as a religious thing at all.
I think Bob meant to make me smile. I had hoped to also make You smile. I only attempted to share with you and to wish you a Happy New Year. I never meant to tell anyone how to "run" their life or what to do!
Somehow, someone misinterpreted the written words called, "Symtoms of Inner Peace" as a document with religious overtones. Someone else thought I was criticizing someone in particular. Someone even commented that I must not be a very religious person (?) for having used it in my New Year Wish.
I thank all of you who emailed me privately, for all of your comments and suggestions. I welcome contructive, well intentioned criticism and look at it as a mirror held up for me by someone else. I am still in a growth process. The molding of this woman here ...is unfinished. I AM hoping that by writing this I can alleviate any further controversy about my submission.
Again...I only intended to share best wishes and a little 'whimsy' with you. Please delete anything you find unsuitable. I gave my email address because some have wished to make comment to me, specifically, in the past. If the ddn: is not in front of my email address I would simply not receive any of your email, sent in criticism, or praise. I am truly sorry if I have offended anyone in any way. I had not thought to cause argument or controversy. Inner Peace was/IS my wish for the New Year for You All.
Elaine G. Baker (R. Elaine Groves in 67 yearbook).
Any comments about this posting may be referred to <ddn:bakere@bbs.bragg.army.mil> (address to include no spaces/all lower case) Attached is what was sent to me by my friend, Bob, (not Bob Brown...though I do count him as a friend. He but was not the person who sent me Symptoms of Inner Peace).
From: Donna Lowrie
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:07:20 -0600
Subject: Re: Epidemic Proportions!
Lighten up folks! Life's short ... let's not muck it up by being critical, judgmental, fussy -- goodness, I get all of that I could possibly want out on the Interstate or about five minutes of CNN!! Personally, I enjoyed Elaine's posting -- I aint perfect, and am willing to be open to receiving positive character traits -- I need all the help I can get.
Thanks, Elaine.
Donna Lowrie BHS '61
From: Steve Crawford U.S. Allegiance, Inc.
Date: Wed, 8 Jan
1997 15:57:20 -0800
Subject: Oh Puhleeze.....
C'mon.... one can get on the net and find any number and type of groups out there for every purpose and reason. Let the Baker Chat Line be the Baker Chat Line... an informal area for former Baker Bums to reconnect, reminisce and chat about Baker through the years. Keep it fun! Keep your personal preferences, beliefs and sharing of generic Quality of Life tomes restricted to Private Correspondence.
From: Bob Brown
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 97 19:03:37 EST
Subject:
Back To School
Yesterday was the first day of classes for me, second day for those who are there every day. The halls smelled of fresh paint. Everyone was red from the cold and excited to be starting a new quarter. It's exhilirating!
Does this wear off when you've been teaching for 150 or so years? Geez! I hope not.
From: Jeanne Sweeney
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 20:14:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Back To School
Bob said: "Yesterday was the first day of classes for me..snipit.. It's exhilirating! Does this wear off when you've been teaching for 150 or so years? Geez! I hope not."
Today was my first day back teaching for the quarter. After going on six years of full-time teaching- still exhilirating for me too. Wonder if our Baker teachers felt that way? By the way, I start back to grad school as a student in only 3 weeks and I can't wait! I would rather delay putting next week's exam together and start reading ahead, instead. Have to laugh at myself. It sparks my memories of planning for that first day of class in high school ... Jeannie '65 Jeanne Sweeney, RN, MSN, Assistant Professor Georgia College & State University Campus Box 64 Milledgeville, GA 31061
From: Betty Seabury
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 20:46:53 -0500
Subject: Re: Back To School
Bob,
I don't know about "150 years or so" but I still had a feeling of anticipation and excitement with the beginning of each new school year for the 41 years I was involved with education. I would add that my years at Baker gave me some of the greatest teaching experiences I had in my entire career.
Katrina Yielding
From: George Burns
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:13:36 -0500
Subject: good night folks
when the lion sleeps tonight, he will rest his head upon his paws... and look up to the heavens
as he gazes upon the moon, he will look at the one open eye of the moon... and peer into it
and as he looks into it, he will see past the bright side of the moon... and gaze upon the dark side of the moon... and sleep
have a nice one
From: Michele Forinash
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:14:49 -0500
(EST)
Subject: Re: Epidemic proportions
I second your comment Rick Burns.. I always knew you to be level headed. Michele Forinash '74.
From: Roy Cook
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:17:42 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Epidemic Proportions!
ditto. Let's keep it light. Speaking of light. does everyone know that the lion on the @Baker site was designed by Kelly Carney, class of '68, for the Lion on the Line phone directory. She now lives in Miami, Florida and owns her own consulting firm.
Roy class of 68
From: RKondrak
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:22:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: remove
Please remove me from your newsletter.
rkondrak
From: Elmer H. Young Young
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 18:42:37 UT
Subject: RE: Back To School
Dr Yielding:
I'm glad I got to share some of your experiences along with some of
the most inspiring and challeging fellow students I've ever known. (sigh!) Wish
you were here for my kids.
Pete Young '63
From: Betty Seabury
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 1997 8:46 PM
Re: Back To School
Bob,
I don't know about "150 years or so" but I still had a feeling of anticipation and excitement with the beginning of each new school year for the 41 years I was involved with education. I would add that my years at Baker gave me some of the greatest teaching experiences I had in my entire career.
Katrina Yielding
From: Elmer H. Young Young
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 18:37:47 UT
Subject: RE: Epidemic Proportions!
Thanks Elaine! It spoke to me. I passed it on.
Pete
From: Katherine Agar
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 12:05:50 -0600
(MDT)
Subject: Re: Back To School
But more important, didn't Katrina Yielding give us students at Baker some of the greatest learning experiences of our lives? I never got to take your class because I left before my senior year, but I still remember discussions that started in your classes and ended in heated private debates. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I wish my children had been so lucky.
Kathy Omelanuk Agar
From: Dehanza Shreen Rogers
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 14:46:25
-0500
Subject: RE: Epidemic Proportions!
unsubscribe.
- -daye, class of '94 -
From: Katherine Agar
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 13:42:07 -0600
(MDT)
Subject: inner pieces
Without passing judgment on the content, I would respectfully request those who want to comment on the 'Inner Peace' posting not to keep copying the whole posting as a part of their message. And I hope the repetitive messages, haven't caused too many people to unsubscribe. This, too, shall pass.
Kathy Agar
From: George Burns
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 17:09:24 -0500
Subject: get over it... and get on with it
A dead horse can only be beaten to death for so long. Its time to move on with other important issues... like the weather.
I'm fixing to get an ice storm and some snow fall. Is there anyone on this chat line that has gotten "butt deep" in snow yet? If so, please let me know if the news media in your area goes spastic over snow alerts; or have they learned to avoid mass panic grocery buying, by moderate broadcasting? In the Louisville, KY area, our news media go way overboard about it.
Nice day... have one!!!
George
From: mdorsett
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 22:35:00 -0800
Subject: Re: get over it... and get on with it
George, The message traffic is so "freshman" like that I
unsubscribed after two days. If that is the level of the mineless messages that
is typical of this chat line well ... forget it. Mike
From: TidwellK
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:45:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: get over it... and get on with it
HEY NO SNOW AROUND HERE UST REAL COLD WHEATHER AND SLEET
From: TidwellK
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:51:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: get over it... and get on with it
HEY WILL YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE WHEATHER IS LIKE WHERE YOU ARE? I THINK IT'S SNOWING HERE AFTER ALL
From: Bruce Emerson
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 06:20:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: get over it... and get on with it
Ha George and company,
Here in Huntsville, about three hours north of Baker, the snow and ice comes as infrequently as in Columbus and the media seems to focus on two things; the panic in on the roads and, the hustle and bustle in the Grocery stores. Presidential issues, national news and local spots are disregarded. During these periods, it is easy to see why Hollywood and Washington DC personalities adore the media. Don't you just get really tired of the media blowing thing out of proportion! Ya'll be careful out there. P.S Has anyone heard anything new on a reunion this year for the Class of 67?
Bruce Emerson - 67
From: Bakere
Date: 10 Jan 1997 09:15:56 EDT
Subject:
Weather
Hello George... The media here is like media everywhere...they grasp at whatever news is available to sell. It is a business, after all. IMHO, I think the panic grocery shopping goes deeper. People here in Fayetteville, North Carolina seem to want their comfort zones met is all. I, myself, do a mental check on milk, bread, etc., automatically.
If there is the smell of snow in the air, I call my 84 year old mother to see how her cupboard is stocked. Since we have more ice than snow, if the weather person is leaning toward snow...we check to see if ingredients for "snow cream" are on hand. If we luck out with 4 inches...you see people, old and young alike "playing in snow".
But snow and ice here IS serious business since we have little experience with driving on it. People do have a lot of wrecks...especially those who have never "navigated" ice. Our ground saturates quickly during any light rain...so a glaze of ice on ground and highways is inevitable during winter storms. People visiting from "up North" think we are silly until they themselves experience the 'slide' across 6 lanes of traffic to land in a ditch or against another car.
Silly as we are, people learn to love the changing weather of North Carolina. On New Years day (only 10 days ago, much of the country was in the throes of winter). Here, it was 74 degrees Farenheit. Many wore shorts. Today, the high is expected to be 54; tomorrow 44. Next week...no self-respecting North Carolinian would give you a straight answer on what weather to expect seven days from now. The expression "himming and hawwing about the weather" probably originated here. One never knows in Fayetteville, whether he or she should "him or haw" when asked about it. One learns to live each day as it was given. I really do "like calling North Carolina, Home".
From: katherine stroup
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 09:05:32 CST
Subject: Re: get over it... and get on with it
Hello George, This is Tiny Tinker Stroup, BHS class of '75. I live in Nashville, TN and, yes, our media goes ape also. I lived in Iowa for almost 13 years and can drive through snow, no problem. The problem here is not snow, it that darn ICE. No wonder everyone panics. They (city road officials) also don'e realize that if they start to salt early, while it is still raining or whatever, it will not form ice. The midwest also mixes sand with their salt for traction. I have not made this suggestion, however, as I am just a motorist and of no importance to the city heirarchy. We are supposed to get nasty weather today, too. Drive safe.
TT
p.s. I, for one, am glad that horse was been carted off!!!
From: A. Frank Stringfellow
Date: 10 Jan 97 07:54:23 -0800
Subject: Bubba Phonics
The following article recently appeared in a Columbia, SC newspaper:
Hooked on Bubbonics by Michael Graham
Author's Note: When a California school board adopted a policy recognizing so-called Ebonics, or Black English, as a primary language, the following press release was immediately released by a South Carolina school system. Any similarity between the quotes therein and public comments by advocates of Ebonics is (according to my attorney) pure coincidence.
COLUMBIA, SC/In an attempt to stop the downward spiral of grades and test scores of rural white students, the Pelion, South Carolina school board has become the first in the nation to declare that rural Southerners speak a language distinct from English. The board voted unanimously to require teachers to recognize so-called "Bubbonics" (a term combining "Bubba" and "phonics") as an alternative language, like Spanish or Chinese. "It's not just bad English," Pelion school spokesman Ralph A. "Bubba" Shealy said of Bubbonics. "Rather than call it subpar (sic), we're acknowledging their language skills with the goal in mind to help them master reading, writing and speaking standard English.
Hell, I can't hardly speak no better, and I went to Tech school!" he acknowledged. School officials said linguists recognize Bubbonics as a distinct language which originated in a group of mobile home parks along the South Atlantic Coast. It has distinct syntax patterns, grammar and customs, including a bizarre tendency among its speakers to think Jeff Foxworthy's TV show is funny.
The resolution adopted by the school is based on academic research at Beauregard State College and School of Straight Chiropractic in Goose Creek, SC. "We're not saying (Southern English) is wrong; we're saying it's different and not that it has to be abandoned but that something has to be learned," said Dr. Peter J. Lil' Bubba" Haberman, director of the Strom Thurmond School Linguistic Studies at BSC. "It's building on kids' strengths."
According to Dr. Haberman, Southern English differs from standard English in grammar, word selection and reliance on man-made, oral implants (chewing tobacco, gum, an oversized toothpick) for accurate pronunciation and pace. "Jus' cause we lost the War of Northern Aggression don't mean we cain't do nuthin' right," says Dr. Haberman. Many on the school board agree: "Whatever we are using now is not working.
In my day, they would teach you how to talk like Yankees," school board member Tanya (Mrs. Bubba) Cook told reporters. "Because someone says 'I ain't got no sense' does not mean someone is intellectual deficient." William A. "Bubber" Keisler, a substitute teacher of English and animal husbandry at Pelion High School, said recognizing Bubbonics is "just recognizing reality," since for many rural students, standard English is basically a second language. "They can understand it but they don't really speak it," he said. "Besides, true animal husbandry uses the universal language of love."
Still, the decision met with public resistance, mostly from Klan members and other fringe Southern groups who call the reform a half mea. sure. These organizations advocate a return to the Neanderthal communications system based on grunts and hand gestures. They also want all South Carolina school children to begin the day pledging the Confederate Flag.
"I say they's a bunch of pin-headed liberals," says Grand Rumpus of the Holy Order of Imperial KKK, Harlan King. "They all got too much book-learnin'." A few public school officials oppose the move as divisive and detrimental to students.
One or two national organizations have called the decision insulting to the intellects of rural children. They claim that it is bigoted to assume rural kids can't learn Standard English, and they questioned a paragraph in the resolution referring to "Rural Language Systems" as being "genetically based and not a dialect of English."
Mrs. Cook said the board used "genetically" to refer to historic
and cultural, not biological factors. "Hey, that's part of the South. We
don't know the right word, we make one up. You got a problem with that, Yankee?"
However, many Southern educators remain enthusiastic about Bubbonics:
"l
applaud Pelion for what they've done," said Barney (Bubba, Jr.) Boudreaux
of the Kentucky Public School and Penal System Oversight Committee "Every
Southeren(sic)-American ... has some kind of dialectical pattern that is laughed
at by others. So I am willing to recognize Bubbonics as a language."
According to the American Speech Language and Hearing Association, one trail Southern is the use of expanded diphthongs The word "right" for example, rhymes with " in standard English, but is pronounced "RYE uht" in the Southern vernacular, as in "I throwed up mah 20-gauge and nailed that booger RYE-uht 'tween th'eyes" (trans: "I raised my weapon scored a direct hit on the target in question'
Two vowels together may require four or more syllables down South and, in evangelistic circles "God" is (when properly pronounced) a three syllable word. Another trait of Bubbonics is redundancy used for emphasis, as in "That there Dick Trickle can flat-out drive a auto-mo-bile, I tell you what."
Then there are arcane words and unusual expressions: "I reckon I'm fixin'to git ready. (I am prepared.); "Back off, boy before I open l can a whup-ass on you!" (Stay away or an altercation will ensue); and "How's ya Mawmuhn' (How are your mother and her acquaintance).
Meanwhile, the battle over alternative English has expanded beyond Dixie. A group Mexican-American parents are suing the Texas schools, asking them to recognize "Hisponics New York, several Italian-American lobbies a urging acceptance of "Vinni-onics" (Yo, like, what choo lookin' at?) and Asian students are quietly advocating a return of the "no-tikee, I washee" dialect of their grandparents (Egg Foo Yonics).
The educators of South Carolina remain undeterred. "We will teach rural Southern Students in their primary language for the combined purposes of maintaining the legitimacy and richness of (Bubbonics) and to facilitate their acquisition and mastery of English language skills," insists Dr. Haberman.
"Now, any'all know whut I jus' said?"
From: George Burns
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:22:16 -0500
Subject: Tiny Tinker Stroup
Hello Tiny Tinker Stroup,
I have to be in Nashville on the 16th or 17th of Jan. Please provide me with "your" e-mail address so we can chat "off this line".
Thanks,
George '72
From: Steve Crawford
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:20:40 -0800
Subject: Can We Have a Vote?
Please vote (1) or (2) (1) To maintain this BB as a Baker High School relevant site. (2) To accept this BB as a public site for discussion of subjects that do not even remotely have a BHS relationship.
There are numberous Web Sites for everything in the world you want to discuss... Abuse, Weather, Inspiration, you name it! But this is the ONLY Baker site that exists. Can't baker.hs.org. messages be BAKER relevant? Can't people who make contact via this BB continue their PERSONAL communications privately?
Frankly, my dear, I'm not subscribing to this site for enlightenment! I'm curious as to what happened to all the people I knew from Baker. It seems obvious to me that this is what the site is for. I don't accept the "Oh, if you don't like it, delete it!" -I say: IF IT'S NOT BAKER RELEVANT IT DOESN'T BELONG HERE!
From: katherine stroup
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 11:28:03 CST
Subject: Re: Tiny Tinker Stroup
Howdy George. Sorry, but I don't have e-mail anywhere but work. I still live in the dark ages with no computer at home. What year did you graduate BHS? My sister '62 and brother '74 so we are a BHS family. Have you siblings that emerged from that scholarly institute as well? I am leaving early today due to weather. As we agreed before, driving on ice is no fun. Have a nice weekend and I'll talk at ya next week. TTS
From: George Burns
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:53:28 -0500
Subject: Bubba Phonics
My hat goes off to you for taking the time to cause a side-splitting session, by your entry on the chat line.
Here in KY, it is rumored that there is a separate... but equal version of Bubba Phonics. Jeff Foxworthy hits on much of it in his albums. And here in the Bluegrass state, it also rumored that gene pools are not very large. And as a result, husbands and wives that divorce, tend to remain brother and sister (or so I've only heard).
Yet... I have passed through portions of KY, that the locals only have one eyebrow and some of the women have better mustaches than I do. But this is another subject entirely.
None the less, Bubbonics is here to stay. A local version of that is:
I ain't got noooo ideals bout that. Translation: I don't have any ideas on that topic. Go figure...
George '72
From: George Burns
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:05:56 -0500
Subject: Re. Can We Have a Vote?
Sure we can vote. This is a taxpayer stressed democracy. But in the text of the recently posted Bubbonics... Who you be?; Ye of such anonymity.
I vote 3... the total of 1 & 2. Let's get some fun and relevance out of this BHS BB. And you are correct. There are numerous sites for discussion. We can start here and move to them, from here.
Novel idea
From: Steve.White
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:06:10 EST
Subject: RE: Can We Have a Vote?
AMEN!, Preach on!!!!
Steven D. White
From: Dunn, Keith
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:32:19 -0500
Subject: RE: Can We Have a Vote?
Craw-Daddy (you ever-erudite entrepreneural enigma - what the heck does U.S. Allegiance do? I suspect pyramid schemes ... you notorious enemy of the people!);
I vote for selection #1 ...
K. Dunn `69
From: Roy Cook
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:42:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: get over it... and get on with it
Bruce, Sunshine here. Our 30th reunion is coming up next year. If you think your classmates would like to have a joint one, maybe we could pull together and have one, perhaps a beach party in Panama City. Just a thought.
Roy class of 68
From: David A. Powell
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:21:31 -0500
Subject: Re: Can We Have a Vote?
I agree wholeheartedly and cast my vote for # 1. This site should be for Baker relevant discussions only.
From: Steve Crawford
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:56:47 -0800
Subject: Re: Re. Can We Have a Vote?
ME anoymity? Your E-Mail address ain't exactly demonstrative. Yes,
let's have fun...but this therapy, religious, inspriational stuff just doesn't
belong on the BHS site. The site should be just like the Baker I remember:
A bunch of fun loving, sharp tongued, wise-cracking, partying -and
generally very intelligent- transient people! I, by the way, am Steve Crawford
of 1968... any connections with that time frame?????
From: Steve Crawford U.S. Allegiance, Inc.
Date: Fri, 10 Jan
1997 12:52:27 -0800
Subject: Re: Can We Have a Vote?
Hey, Keith. Good to hear from you. Thanks for your support. I'm just so damn tired of people monopolizing the BHS site for personal crap! I want to hear about people who SURVIVED Baker!
U.S. Allegiance is a company I founded at Ft. Benning in 1980 when I decided that I needed to work for myself and what did I really know but the military. Today, we are the largest publisher of military postcards, greeting cards, decals, magnets, etc. in the military exchange systems. We also have just signed some excellent contracts with the U.S. Postal Service to do a postcard program based on stamp images.
Things are going well. Great wife, boy 11, girl 9... and we live in a wonderful environment. Otherwise, in 10-words or less, since leaving Baker I lived in Tehran, Iran... Greece... New York City... was a journalist and media guy. So, bring me up to date. Wait... what is this address? AF.MIL? Are you in the Air Force or working at an Air Force Base?
From: Steve Crawford
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:16:43 -0800
Subject: Re: get over it... and get on with it
Roy...
what an idea! Can we have the "Hangout" rebuilt? Would this mean that I would have to drink Vodka out of one bottle and Orange Juice out of another to have a Screwdriver? Could I bring my wife so I could FINALLY have sex in Panama City?
From: A. Frank Stringfellow
Date: 10 Jan 97 11:39:49 -0800
Subject: Can We Have a Vote?
Greetings fellow BAKER BUMS:
It seems to me that a vote is really not necessary. After all, anything that a Baker HS alumnus has to say MUST be relevant. Relevant to what, you say? Who cares? Read it if you want to, DELETE it if you don't. Damn, what could be easier than just hitting "DELETE"?
And another thing.... Can't we all just lighten up a little bit? Jeeze, are we uptight or what? If you don't want to be on the damn mailing list, then just get the hell off. You need not ANNOUNCE your intentions as if to threaten us all with your absence. Go, just go.
Frank Stringfellow The Twist King BHS '62
From: Mary Anne Hampton
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:14:08 -0800
Subject: Re: Can We Have a Vote?
I vote (1) after being off the internet for 8 hours I had 14 new messages only two worth reading. This one and one from my server. Thank you Steve Crawford.
From: Hursey, Caye
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:13:50 -0800
Subject: RE: Can We Have a Vote?
HI, Steve, I vote with you. I am new to the Baker site and so far I am surprised by how many messages I get that I don't read!
Steve, as an aside, do you remember me?
Casey, class of '68, friend of Debbie Tompkins.
Bye!
From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:55:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Snow and Other stuff
In a message dated 97-01-10 04:02:24 EST, George wrote:
<< I'm fixing to get an ice storm and some snow fall. Is there anyone on this chat line that has gotten "butt deep" in snow yet? >>
Not butt deep yet, but butt ugly! I've had to blow out the driveway twice and Norma blew it out in between times. Supposed to be well below zero tonight.
In a message dated Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:20:40 -0800, Steve Crawford wrote:
<<IF IT'S NOT BAKER RELEVANT IT DOESN'T BELONG HERE! >>
Well, Steve. I don't think this site can be pure anything. One of my goals is to learn about my class mates lives and interests since Baker, another is to learn about and become friends with other follks who share a comon school at different times, and the other is to be a part of each others lives.
So I do enjoy the short insights into daily lives as well as memories. Some can be rather disconcerting, others too long (and brother do I hate the whole messages being repeated over and over). However, my goals will not be met if everyone drops out to private chats for any variance from a Baker theme.
@Baker is indeed a mirror of the Baker we knew. And even at our best, we didn't like or get along with everyone. So if we are all a little more aware of each other's preferences and dislikes, and make some effort to respect them and give a little room, I think we can all co-exist and enjoy ourselves.
Or as Frank Stringfellow said, "Can't we all just lighten up a little bit? Jeeze, are we uptight or what? " Couldn't have put it better Frank!
Mike '64
From: Jim Davis
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 23:42:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Can We Have a Vote?
Steve Crawford U.S. Allegiance, Inc. wrote:
Steve, I agree
wholeheartedly, but chill buddy!! Glad to hear all is well and that you haven't
lost your passion.
Jim Davis '66
From: Jim Davis
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 23:47:41 -0500
Subject: Re: get over it... and get on with it
What makes you think bringing your wife guarantees sex?
From: George Burns
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 08:38:06 -0500
Subject: trying to find someone
Anyone... anyone knowing or knowing where Cindy Adams, Class of '71 is; please post it. I've tried to find her a couple of times, with no luck. She was the Captain of the girls drill team for a few years.
Thanks, George Burns Class of '72
From: BFBILL
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 09:15:51 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Oh Puhleeze.....
AMEN ! .... Whoops !
From: Roy Cook
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 10:32:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: trying to find someone
George,
Cindy's father Sam Adams phone number is 706
Roy
From: George Burns
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 11:25:48 -0500
Subject: Re: trying to find someone
Roy, You wouldn't happen to be Roy "Sunshine" Cook would you?
George Burns '72
From: Steve Crawford U.S. Allegiance, Inc.
Date: Sat, 11 Jan
1997 08:58:52 -0800
Subject: Re: Snow and Other stuff
Sorry for posting this entire message back... but... I agree with you. No way the BHS site is going to be pure anything and, yes, I do enjoy little tidbits between people, but it's gotten a little out of hand and if the site remains constantly cluttered and you have to search for Baker relevant material, I feel more people will unsubscribe and we'll eventually lose what we come to the site for.
I guess, if it's not Baker relevant then it should at least be light and not therapeutic or evangelistic.
From: George Burns
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 11:31:24 -0500
Subject: pardon my manners
Roy, P.S. Thanks for the phone number. In my haste, I forget my manners. George
From: Roy Cook
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 11:59:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: trying to find someone
George,
To put it in Ebonics....I be he. Hope you can find Cindy. Sunshine
From: Veronica Horton Emerson
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 12:21:30
-0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: trying to find someone
Roy,
are you sure that Sam was her father. Is this the same one that owned the Bowling alley. If it is, Sam's son is also named Sam and his sister, who went to Baker, class of 69, is Carol. Did I just muddy things up or what...
Veronica Horton Emerson 70
From: Roy Cook
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 12:29:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: trying to find someone
Veronica,
Sam is the father of Cindy and Little Sam and owned the bowling alley. Saw little Sam last night at Logan's Restaurant. He is the manager of a Big B (now revco) drug store in Columbus. He still looks the same.
Tell Bruce I said dahuh.. he'll know what you mean. (Hope you get John Boy and Billy in Huntsville.
Sunshine
From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:24:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Another Baker
I was poking around the net and came across a reference to a previously unknown to us Baker High School in Fairborn, Ohio. Brian Shapiro, had listed it as his Alma Mater, so I wrote Brian. Here is his reply.
Regretfully, My HS Alma Mater has been changed to the Junior High. The two high schools in Fairborn were recombined to make only a single HS.
The original Fairborn Flyers and associated colors (Blue and Gold) and logos for Baker HS and the Vikings (other HS in town) and their colors (Brown and Gold) were dumped also. The new Fairborn High School is now home of the Skyhawks with a new combined (sort of) set of colors (brown, blue, yellow, white).
Many things have changed in Fairborn and quite frankly, I am glad to be away from there.
From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:38:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Summaries
Bob - Did you get my last upload of the Nov and Dec summaries (about a week ago.)? If not let me know and I will re-send.
Mike '64
From: Bill Foreman
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 10:45:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Missing Person-Class of 72, Need Help
I lived next door to the same family for 20 years. My neighbor was Harry Frank, class of 72. He disappeared over 13 years ago. His mother had him declared legally dead a few years back, but she is hopeful that someone knows what might have happned or even some rumors that might shed some light to his disappearance. If anyone has any information, please contact me..
Bill Foreman Class of 73
From: Jane Gillis
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 11:41:18 -0800
Subject: Re: Can We Have a Vote?
I AGREE WITH YOU
From: Sandye Smith
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 12:31:15 -0800
Subject: Re: Vincent Melillo
Vincent Melillo "74 passed away Friday January 10, l997. Visitation will be Sunday January 12, l997 at Striffler Hamby Funeral Home, Columbus, Ga. from 4:00 pm to 6:00 pm.
Sandye '64
From: Mike Reneau
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 16:38:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Can We Have a Vote?
I AGREE WITH YOU ALSO. Therefore I vote for #1
Thanks
Mike Class of 67
From: Katherine Agar
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 15:19:23 -0600
(MDT)
Subject: the vote
I think I would decline to vote on the Baker List content issue. As my brother Mike pointed out, it is hard to determine what info is 'relevant' and to whom. At the same time, I wonder if we could eliminate some of the problems by taking a few simple practical measures.
1) Delete the original message, or briefly summarize to give our remarks a context,to cut down on the clutter. Hitting the reply option without deleting the original message, particularly a long message or series of replies, forces readers to wade through a lot of repetitious stuff before getting to the new message, if indeed they can find it at all.
2) Send messages intended simply as replies to one person back to that person rather than to the list, unless the content (queries, etc.) might get reactions from others interested in the same persons, etc. Hitting reply should do it, since that option replies to the sender and not to the list.
My personal taste would be to avoid religious witnessing or intimate disclosures about therapy, abuse, etc. on the list, as that can be an aggressive disregard of other peoples' beliefs (or nonbeliefs) and personal boundaries, but I'm not going to unscubscribe if someone does it. Clearly we do not all agree on this. I hope we can accommodate some diversity, which means real and sometimes strong disagreements. This is not a homogeneous group, in spite of our common link with Baker. Didn't we spend plenty of time arguing there too?
Kathy Omelanuk Agar
From: Luther C. Story
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 19:58:21 -0500
Subject: Re: Can We Have a Vote?
> I don't accept the "Oh, if you don't like it, delete it!"
-I say: IF
> IT'S NOT BAKER RELEVANT IT DOESN'T BELONG HERE!
By
all means,
NO ONE!
59 - -- Luke & Jean Story
From: T.J. Turgeon
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:35:39 -0500
Subject: HELP
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO CONTACT PEOPLE ON THIS WEB SITE FOR THE PAST FOUR DAYS. IS ANYONE READING THIS?????????
From: LINDA SCHIMMEL
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:59:31 -0500
Subject: HELP -Reply
YES, T.J. --- YOU ARE NOT ALONE.
Linda Schimmel (Hill) '66
From: Mary Anne Hampton
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:08:37 -0800
Subject: Re: Missing Person-Class of 72, Need Help
Information add to this message. (I'm a friend of Alice Frank class of '65). He left for CA Dec '84. They had an address in SD, CA mail was returned in Jan addressee unknown. He was born 13 Sep 54 full name Harry William Frank, Jr., IRS said no 83 tax return was filed.
> Subject: Re: Missing Person-Class of 72, Need Help I lived next
door to the same family for 20 years. My neighbor was Harry Frank, class of
72. He disappeared over 13 years ago.
From: Roy Cook
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:34:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: HELP
TJ,
Sunshine, here. Received your distress signal on the @Baker site. What help did you need. Hope that you received my personal fax to you that I sent several days ago.
Sunshine
From: Huston Sansom
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:46:15 -0600
Subject: Re: HELP
From: Hursey, Caye
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 11:00:52 -0800
Subject: RE: HELP
TJ, i'm reading it. Casey.
From: katherine stroup
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 97 13:09:42 CST
Subject: Re: HELP
I am. Who is this? You have reached Tiny Tinker Stroup, BHS Class oif '75, in Nashville, TN.
From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 13 Jan 1997 16:24:42 EDT
Subject: Re. Can We Have a Vote?
I vote 3 (sum of 1 & 2)...why should we be gagged just because we are from Baker? Our own "Newt" could talk here on any subject....couldn't he? Why not we (bubbonics)?
Elaine (R. Elaine Groves '67)
From: David A. Powell
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:11:20 -0500
Subject: Re: HELP
Reading it loud and clear !
From: Steve Crawford
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 15:48:37 -0800
Subject: Re: HELP
TJ... is this message BAKER RELATED? Have you considered that people are just possibly IGNORING YOU? Are you ever going to repay me that $5 I loaned you at the Poker Game at Moon Mullins house?
From: Jim Davis
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:41:04 -0500
Subject: Re: HELP
T.J, Yes we are! Jim
From: TMccool811
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:26:22 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: HELP
Yes, we are all seeing your message. Perhaps you are experiencing one way transmission.. If you have an emergency, call 911 :)
Ted McCool class of '66
From: Mforinash
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 02:27:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: HELP
Yes TJ we are out here. Michele Forinash '74
From: Mike Reneau
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 07:42:50 -0500
Subject: Re: HELP
T.J.
It is good hearing from you.This is Mike Reneau class of 67 but I knew you and your dad but frm the boys club than from Baker. Let me know how you and your dad is doing.
Mike
From: Mike Reneau
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:08:52 -0500
Subject: Re: HELP
Sunshine
It has been long time sinceI have seen or heard from you. I accidentally found this site and it has been a pleasure seeing some names and talking to graduates from baker. Let me know what you are doing and how you have been. You cantact me at the following E-mail address; deleted
From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 14 Jan 1997 11:17:40 EDT
Subject: Re: HELP
Come on in... Welcome! We read you loud and clear!
Elaine Graves Baker (R. Elaine Groves in 67 annual)
From: George Burns
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 12:43:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Vincent Melillo
Sandye '64
Vince and I were in grade school together for a number of years, and then in Scouts. Please express my condolences to his family for me; or e-mail an address for a card. I just came in from being on the road for a couple of days.
George Burns '72
From: L. Lynn DeLaMare
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:22:40 -0800
Subject: Re: HELP
You probably haven't gotten an answer because some people have been too busy trying to find out where their brains went - but try, try again!
Laura (*LYNN*) (Wood) DeLaMare
From: mwhursey
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:59:30 -0800
Subject: Re: HELP
TJ: I've been getting your e-mails, but twice I've e=mailed back to your site and got "rejected". I'll try this reply again. Mike
From: Jim Davis
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:03:23 -0500
Subject: Re: HELP
L. Lynn DeLaMare wrote:
Noooo, Laura dear, I don't think that's it. I'm just real sure the rest of
us know where OUR brains are.
Jim Davis '66
From: Linda Cox
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:24:26 -0600
Subject: [Fwd: Re: HELP]
T.J.,
Yes, we're out here!
Linda Cox '72
From: Hursey, Caye
Subject: RE: HELP
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 11:00:52 -0800
TJ, i'm reading it. Casey.
From: Bob Brown
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 00:30:39 EST
Subject:
Good News and Bad News
The good news is that we're growing by leaps and bounds. We have almost 200 people on Lions-L these days. Some people find that electronic mailing lists aren't their cup of tea and resign, but more people are joining than are leaving.
The bad news is that I can't keep up. As people move among Internet providers and otherwise move around, the amount of e-mail that isn't deliverable grows dramatically. And it all comes to me. I'm getting over 20 "bounce" messages per day.
I can no longer handle each one personally. Beginning last week- end (grin) e-mail which is restuned as undeliverable will cause the recipent to be unsubscribed from Lions-L (or Lions-Digest) and subscribed to lions-L-Bounces. Once a month (or so) I'll send a note to Lions-L-Bounces explaining to people why they aren't receiving mail from the @Baker list. After about a year, I'll discard "bouncing" addresses entirely.
I wish I could continue to provide personal attention to the messages which "bounce" but it's impossible. Sorry.
Erm, unless someone wants to volunteer to be Listmaster. <grin>
--Brown
From: CThaner
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:31:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: HELP
Speaking of Mullins did he marry Jan Rose? I was a good friend of Jan's at Baker and have lost contact with her. Bill Miller said he thought they were living in New Orleans.
Charmaine (Miller) Thaner Class of 70
From: Burns Rick SCI
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 9:17:00 -0500
Subject: Pat Mullins
Charmaine
I know Pat married Jan. His mother (Rose) and my mother were the best of friends and his brother (Buster) taught me how to swim at the Boys Club. Where he is - I don't know. Sunshine -do you have an e.mail address for Pat?
Rick Burns - '74
From: George Burns
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:28:18 -0500
Subject: hey... where's everyone at?
is anybody ouuuuut therrrrrre?
its too quiet
From: katherine stroup
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 07:54:50 CST
Subject: Re: hey... where's everyone at?
I'm here. This is Tiny Tinker Stroup '75 in Nashville, TN. Who and where are you?
From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 15 Jan 1997 10:12:34 EDT
Subject: Class of ?
LI>Steven D. White
Hi! >From which class at Baker did you graduate?
From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 15 Jan 1997 10:20:28 EDT
Subject: Can We Have a Vote?
LI>Greetings fellow BAKER BUMS:
LI> LI>You need not
ANNOUNCE your intentions as if to LI>threaten us all with your absence. Go,
just go.
I don't see an email address...so I guess I will just say it. I'm with you, 100%.!
From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 15 Jan 1997 10:59:16 EDT
Subject: Can We Have a Vote?
"Oh, what if someone looks on here and sees all this personal crap? " Isn't all this bickering 'personal' crap, too? IMHO...anyone who looked at all the argument might tend to see the Baker alumni as negative and intolerant.
What ever personal experience some of us might relate, it would only reflect on that person relating it. The bickering makes all look bad. And if the outcome of the vote is the majority for #1, what then? Report the person who occasionally speaks of something not relevant, to the internet police? How does one know what is or is not relevant to all? If something on TV offends; turn it off. Don't buy the sponsor's products. Here? Delete.
From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 15 Jan 1997 11:12:58 EDT
Subject: Re: HELP
LI>I've been getting your e-mails, but twice I've e-mailed back to your LI>site and got "rejected". I'll try this reply again. LI>Mike
Which Mike IS this?
From: George Burns
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:16:12 -0500
Subject: Re: hey... where's everyone at?
Tiny, That message was supposed to be sent last night, when there was no one on for a while. My server isn't serving very well.
George '72
From: Steve Crawford
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:57:32 -0800
Subject: Moon Mullins Address
JMULLINS
From: Mike Reneau
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 19:05:49 -0500
Subject: Re: HELP
T.J. THIS IS MIKE RENEAU THAT WORKED FOR YOUR DAD AT SOUTH COLUMBUS BOYS CLUB AND GRADUATED FROM BAKER IN 1967.
From: David Reneau
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 00:33:33 GMT
Subject: Re: HELP
Hi TJ Yes I see You good to hear from you
From: Charmaine Thaner
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 03:20:15 -0500
(EST)
Subject: Re: Moon Mullins Address
Thank you for Mullins address. I have been able to get in touch with Jan. It'll be fun catching up with each other and rememebering our radical high school days. Thanks again for the info.
Charmaine, '70
From: Sheila Rambeck
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:15:40 +0000
Subject: Lisa Frederick Smith
I know you and Lisa Frederick used to know each other, and she's in Washington DC now. I'll be in Nashville Feb 10-16 for the figure skating championships. I don't know if you remember me, but I'm 5'11" and blond (still). Have fun. See ya.
From: Sheila Rambeck
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:15:37 +0000
Subject: I'm In
I know this isn't the message you sent to tell me to respond to tell you I'm getting all these messages, but I can't find that one and my monitor is screwed up and I can't read things well, so I'm in and receiving messages.
Thanks!
Sheila Ogden Rambeck Class of 74
From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 17 Jan 1997 09:04:20 EDT
Subject: I'm In
Welcome, Sheila!!! Elaine (Graves) Baker,
Fayetteville, NC (Graduating Class of 67...R. Elaine Groves '67 Annual)
From: katherine stroup
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 97 08:22:28 CST
Subject: Re: Lisa Frederick Smith
Of course I remember Lisa! But, you didn't sign your message and I knew several people that were 5'something and blond. Please give me a name so I can bother someone else besides George! Tiny Tinker Stroup (katherine)
From: Roy Cook
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 07:45:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Pat Mullins
Rick,
I don't have Pat's email, but his address is Athens, Ga. 30606. Hope this will help.
Sunshine
From: George Burns
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 07:14:14 -0500
Subject: fresh snow
After a week reprieve, we just got three inches of snow. Is anyone else getting fresh snow?; or are you still buried under old snow?
Ebonics made it in CA. Atlanta is looking at Dialectics (southern style Ebonics). Does anyone out here speak plain old enunciated English anymore?
George '72
From: Bob Brown
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 97 15:17:13 EST
Subject:
E-Mail Netiquette
I came across the following material published by the University of Chicago, and I've adapted it a bit for Lions-L.
Electronic communication, with all of its advantages, has a small number of drawbacks. Essentially, it provides the immediacy of casual conversation, but without the important social context on which casual conversation relies for much of its meaning. Tone, attitude, and emotional state can easily be misinterpreted due to the lack of intonation, gesture, and facial expression.
We thought we would offer some guidelines to keep in mind while composing and reading your electronic mail.
Use descriptive "Subject:" lines. If you change subjects in a reply, please edit the subject line appropriately.
Write as you would a letter: use upper- and lowercase characters and complete sentences. USING ALL CAPITALS MAKES IT LOOK LIKE YOU ARE SHOUTING!
Leave white space between paragraphs.
If you are replying to someone else's message, summarize your understanding of the previous letter, or quote enough of the original to be understandable; many people receive hundreds of messages a day, which makes it very easy to lose track of a conversation.
Do not quote the entire message though - use an editor to remove all but the relevant portion. Quoting the whole message is worse than not quoting at all.
Keep your signature short.
Think before you write. Many e-mail lists have well-defined subject matter, and straying off-subject is considered rude. The Lions-L list is more general, but even here, not all messages are appropriate. Think about whether you'd say something at a party with many people you don't know very well. If you wouldn't, it's probably not appropriate for the Lions-L list, either.
Be aware of irony, humor and satire. Don't jump to conclusions about others', but try to mark yours appropriately - the use of emoticons is one way to accomplish this. :-)
Remember that subtlety is difficult to communicate, and you may be misinterpreted.
Double-check the headers on each message you send - make sure it is going to the people you want it to reach.
Mail only messages you would be willing to claim years from now.
From: Dell Emerson
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:51:56 -0500
Subject: Re: E-Mail Netiquette
Bob,
This is some really excellent netiquette advice. Thanks, and keep up the good work! :-)
Dell '69
From: Bob Brown
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 97 16:46:25 EST
Subject:
Re: E-Mail Netiquette
Hey Dell! You quoted the WHOLE THING! <grin>
From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 21 Jan 1997 08:06:02 EDT
Subject: fresh snow
LI> Does anyone out here speak plain old enunciated English anymore?
LI>George '72
I do, I do!!! Mr. Liebendorfer, that god of English/Literature, preached it to all who
would lend an ear in my Senior English class in 67 at Baker. He made it meaningful to me! I relate its importance to all who will listen (mostly children) wherever I can.
IMHO, (In my humble opinion), "Ebonics" is just more "colloquial" English in the making.
From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 21 Jan 1997 08:26:14 EDT
Subject: E-Mail Netiquette
I would like to reiterate... please sign it (as you would a letter). Many of us cannot "see" on these Lion's Lists "who" wrote "what". In the From line for me, I only see <DDN:lions-l@Baker.HS.org>.
ElaineBaker (Graves) '67
From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 21 Jan 1997 08:40:36 EDT
Subject: Re: E-Mail Netiquette
LI> >excellent advice... LI>Hey Dell! You quoted the WHOLE THING! <grin>
So did I! It seemed a shame to break it up...it was such nice netiquette! :-) R. Elaine Graves 67
From: Janice Pait Bolles
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:16:43 -0500
(EST)
Subject: Re: HELP
I read your message today . You did something right.
Janice Pait Bolles '66
From: Roy Cook
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:34:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: E-Mail Netiquette
Thank you for the e-mail Netiquette. I definately needed it.
Roy class of 68
From: Roy Cook
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:21:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: HELP
Is anyone other than me having trouble getting on AOL? It takes me nearly 30 minutes to get online. I have a backup provider, but I don't receive my mail.
Just wondering,
Sunshine class of 68
From: Bob Brown
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 13:08:23 EST
Subject:
Getting on AOL
Roy Cook wrote:
>Is anyone other than me having trouble getting
on AOL?
Well, AOL recently changed to flat-rate pricing, so people who *do* get on have no incentive to hang up, and AOL's lines are clogged to capacity in many cities.
I know that doesn't give any comfort, but at least you know why.
--Bob '65
From: George Burns
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:26:30 -0500
Subject: Re: HELP
Roy, You're not the only one. I have a different provider, so it doesn't cause me too many problems. AOL has several law suits in Federal Court for failing to provided subscribed service to their customers. 3 mins. is good in your case. My daughter tells me it takes her 20-30 mins. some times. AOL is big... but so are their problems.
Are you still teaching? If so, you may be able to get with Cols. College and subscribe to their provider. Here in KY, the provider I have is affiliated the KY University Systems and offers discounts to teachers and seems to have fewer problems. That may be one approach for you.
But no, you're not alone out there. Millions of AOL customers are pissed off about the waiting time to get on... then getting bumped off. Good luck.
George '72
From: Foucher
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 15:02:45 -0800
Subject: Re: HELP
Hi, A lot of people are having trouble signing on after aol droped it`s hourly rates. Now a lot more people are using aol more often. I here aol is up dating, and things should be better soon. Rick foucher class of 73
From: Steve Crawford
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:50:45 -0800
Subject: Re: HELP
George, I notice that you are on Kentucky University Net... I'm trying to locate an old Baker friend, John Hannum who was in the last couple of years in the graduate program at UK Lexington. He was also a teaching asistant. Can you suggest any BB's or routes to track him down? He was in a department regarding agriculture and irrigation and such.
From: Steve Crawford
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:47:18 -0800
Subject: Re: HELP
Roy, AOL is in deep doo-doo. They've oversubscribed and can't handle all of the accounts they've sold. They're being sued all over the place. People are in an uproar!
From: George Burns
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:20:06 -0500
Subject: AOL
Roy, This just in from a Public Radio Intl. science show I just heard.
AOL: 8,000,000 subscribers, 250,000+ lines, 100,000+ lines to be added soon (?, ha)
I wasn't always awake in Math class... but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the numbers don't add up evenly.
George '72
From: George Burns
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:15:10 -0500
Subject: RE: John Hannum search
Who You be? If you're searching for someone who went to UK... try pulling him up on a web site; UK may have one. If they do, you may be able to talk their WebMaster into forwarding your e-mail address; or... they may have him on an alumni mailing list and would forward mail to him for you. And as a way out last resort, try a telephone listing check. There is also a telephone number/e-mail search engine on Yahoo that has been very helpful for me in my work.
Good luck. Let me know if I can be of any more help.
George '72
From: George Burns
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:35:58 -0500
Subject: AOL
Sunshine, CNN just played a piece that an Attorney General (not sure if it was a state or Big Janet) is planning to file suit against AOL for Deceptive Practices and False Advertising. Steve Case (CEO) was on... "sucking wind".
Don't worry, the little guys are gonna win this one.
George '72
From: Thomas M. Mowery
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:04:03 -0500
Subject: Re: HELP
There OVERBOOKED! It's in the all over the news. A class action suit has been filed concerning the problem.
later,
Tom Mowery (class of 73)
From: mwhursey,ppp
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:32:24 -0800
Subject: Re: HELP
My mother, and two co-workers are/were members of AOL. My mom in Las Vegas,NV thought she was having phone line problems because of the difficulty logging on and staying on. One of my co-workers says it, like you, takes 30 minutes to get on. But, since they only use it a few times a month, it's not worth the hassles involved with changing. We are indeed creatures of habit. Another co-worker cancelled her service this week in frustration. I've tried America On Line, CompuServe, Prodigy and the MicroSoft Network.
While some may have advantages over the other, I've found a localindependent Internet Service Provider (ISP) that's more reliable, responsive, affordable, and accessible. You may want to check in your local area. I recommend the NetScape browser and e-mail program also.
Mike '70
From: JTD3rd
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 00:23:19 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Getting on AOL
Having one hell of a time getting on AOL. They do not seem to have any problem billing my credit card though!
John '70
From: Johnny Joiner
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 06:27:24 -0500
Subject: Internet Access
Roy,
My company is the ' local ISP ' in this area. When we jumped into the business a year ago, the industry's rule of thumb, was to have one access line per ten customers. I personally believe that ratio should be about 1 / 7 ( at least in thia area and based on our traffic studies ).
That being the case, George's figures indicate that AOL, having 8,000,000 customers, and only 250,000 lines, is just a little bit short. ( And another 100,000 lines will not help much ).
In your area, you have a couple of pretty good Providers to choose from, one being ' Mindspring ' . I hear lots of good things about them and understand that they are very reputable.
Johnny Joiner ' 65
From: George Burns
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 07:12:52 -0500
Subject: Re: Getting on AOL
John '70 Welcome to the ninties and free interprise... kind of like paying taxes. George '72
From: George Burns
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 08:06:36 -0500
Subject: Internet Access
Sunshine and anyone in his area, If anyone has any questions about Mindspring, contact Jim Siler Class of '72. He's a Mindspring subscriber and can give you his views on their service.
From: C. Richard Tolbert
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 08:53:23 -0500
Subject: Internet access
In Columbus, The Ledger-Enquirer is a provider and also Internet CSRA in Columbus, Augusta and Atlanta 565 0555.
Richard Tolbert BHS67
From: Sandye Smith
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 10:33:43 -0800
Subject: Re: Internet Access
Anyone in the Columbus area also has access to Lightspeed Data Links which is a local internet provider. They should contact Wendell Brown. It is my net provider and I have had no problems.
Sandye '64
From: David Reed
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 10:31:48 -0500
Subject: Lions Digest V1 #257 -Automated Reply
David is in ViewStar training in California and won't be back in the office until Thursday afternoon.
From: George Burns
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 11:28:00 -0500
Subject: Sandye '64
Sandye,
Did you ever hear anything more on Vince?
George '72
From: Foucher
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 12:10:41 -0800
Subject: Re: Sandye '64
Hi
Rick Foucher here,73 Me and Steve Buran went to his funeral and we were pallbearers. As far as I know, we were his only friends that went. As far as what happened all I know right now is he past away in his sleep. I am waiting for the autopsy.
From: Steve Crawford U.S. Allegiance, Inc.
Date: Sat, 25 Jan
1997 09:05:46 -0800
Subject: AOL False Billing
Besides access problems... AOL billed me a year in advance on my credit card. When I contacted them on-line they told me to call an 800#. I stayed on hold for about 45-minutes and the AOL rep told me THAT I HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT ON-LINE! YES, THIS IS NET ETIQUETTE.... I AM SHOUTING!
I cancelled them and had my credit card company credit my account. I am also filing a complaint with the Oregon Attorney General's Office.
From: George Burns
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:23:50 -0500
Subject: Rick '73
Rick,
.Thanks for the update. I remember Steve, by name; but without a yearbook to jerk my memory, I can't put a face to your name.
I sent his family a card and short note; but was still curious as to just what happened. What Sandye said just made everything sound like there was more to it.
But thanks for responding. Anything you find out, please let Sandye or me know.
George '72
From: George Burns
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:32:58 -0500
Subject: AOL False Billing
Way To Go!!! In addition to going that route, since it involves communications over state lines, consider filing a complaint with the FCC and US Attorney General. The FCC was a HUGE help for me with a telephone solicitation complaint I had several years ago. And if Big Janet has enough complaints on the issue; maybe they can force AOL to provide what they've already billed for.
From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:27:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: AOL
OOPs - Was trying to multi-task on-line and sent quoted messages before I was finished. Any way, from the chilly north, comments of the day.
Sunshine, you can use FLASH sessions to log on around 5 am and auto-download your mail. Fully automated and avoids the log jam.
AOL users can also download a utility called Royston Utilities. Once installed, its best feature is this: You can double click on AOL sign-onbutton and it will redial the 2 numbers until you get a connect. Speeds things up a little and allows you to read the paper or something while the 'puter keeps dialing. Utility is available by using keywork "AOL Insider".
Hope this helps.
In a message dated 97-01-25 04:02:09 EST, George '72 wrote:
<<
Don't worry, the little guys are gonna win this one. >>
Call me cynical, but here's what will happen. One or more lawyers will file a class action suite. They will win, and their fees plus cost will be $62 million. AOL users will each get a month free on AOL. The $62 Million that could have paid for more modems and access numbers will feed a multitude of leeches. Yep the little guys are going to win all right, they will win little.
If there was true justice, the lawyers would get the free month - January 1997. (My aplogies to Al)
Mike '64
From: Steve.White
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 12:40:50 EST
Subject: RE: AOL
Isn't that what got Jim Bakker 40 years????? He oversubcribed at he pleasure palace in South Carolina......fry 'em!
Steven D. White
From: Steve.White
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 12:43:54 EST
Subject: Re: Getting on AOL
I tried the 30 day free trial and they billed my credit card for $75. I cannot recommend AOL even before the latest fiasco. BTW I talked to the billing department at AOL and they said I had used 400 minutes over the prescribed amount. I challenged and they said "tough". I told the credit card company to not pay and I haven't heard anything else.....they are a bunch of jerks and I hope they pay dearly!
Steven D. White
From: Teresa Biesecker
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 14:14:29 -0500
(EST)
Subject: AOL
What really burns my buns as a subscriber to aol is the continuing blitz of advertising they are STILL doing to entice new subscribers!! Why isn't anyone commenting on that I wonder....
Teresa '74
From: Jim Davis
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 15:03:47 -0500
Subject: Re: AOL
What amazes me is why so many of you continue to subscribe! Quit bitching and find another ISP. Try Juno Mail...FREE e-mail, here in Columbus try First Internet Alliance(fia.net)...there are many others, so use the free enterprise system. There is cyberlife after aol, and it's very good.
Jim Davis '66
From: George Burns
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 15:37:42 -0500
Subject: AOL-Teresa '74
Teresa, Since you're on line, pull up msnbc.com or try and get into CNN's site and post your gripes. They live for that and use it.
Hopefully, you'll switch to a credible provider.
George '72
From: David Reneau
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:27:33 GMT
Subject: Re: HELP
Sunshine you need to call Paul Davis he is with gnat net 19.5 per month
From: Al Muehlke
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:40:00 -0700
Subject: Re: AOL vs. ISP
Gee, I don't remember any computers at Baker...ok, now that this officially related to Baker....
When I got on-line back in September I asked all my friends in town what their experiences had been with AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve etc. ALL the comments were negative! Most common complaints were overbilling, access charges & long login waits.
I signed on with a local ISP. On Election Night I had to dial 3 times to get in and that was the longest I've ever had to wait. NEVER had any "undisclosed" charges. The other great advantage of a local ISP is that if you have any sort of a problem they will bend over backwards to help you solve the problem. I had a problem with my modem (it worked fine at the ISP) and they came out to troubleshoot & rectify the problem within 20 minutes of my call. Local ISP's live & die by the service they provide!
No, you may not have the same graphical toys in the browser (all ISP's will have some default browser) but you can download MS IE 3.1 free from Microsoft or buy NETSCAPE and then customize it to have all the features provided by AOL etc.
Does anybody out there know what happened to "Ma" Fraker? She ran the teen club at Ft. Benning while I was there between '66-'68. Anybody remember Charlene Miller (?) or Linda Hawks? I think both would have been class of '70?
Al '69
From: Joe Butterfield
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:47:51 -0500
(EST)
Subject: Re: Lions Digest V1 #257
Re AOL, the large state was New York, Its Atty Gen has given AOL 5 days to respond, that was 2 days ago, or he is going to sue. AOL is curently in negoations with the Atty. Gens from 20 states to head off similar action from those states. As has been said. They sold a product that they did not have, Namly unlimited access for their coustomers.
Joe Butterfield '64
From: Charmaine Thaner
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 00:52:55 -0500
(EST)
Subject: Re: AOL vs. ISP
Hi Al,
This is Charmaine (Miller) Thaner. I am now living and teaching in Colorado.
Speaking of lost classmates does anyone know Linda Johnson"s (class of '70) whereabouts. Many years ago I heard she was working for the Atlanta ballet, sewing costumes.
Charmaine, class of '70
From: Janice Pait Bolles
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 03:41:23 -0500
(EST)
Subject: Re: AOL
go go sister! remeber to always put your maiden name. Be proud to be a Pait.
Janice Pait Bolles '66
From: Janice Pait Bolles
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 04:04:03 -0500
(EST)
Subject: Fwd: AOL
Sorry, I forgot to put to whom I was speaking . Teresa Biesecker is Teresa Pait Biesecker my younger sister. Class of 1974.
Janice Pait Bolles '66
From: Janice Pait Bolles
Date: 97-01-26 03:43:58 EST
go go sister! remeber to always put your maiden name. Be proud to be a Pait.
Janice Pait Bolles '66
From: DAVID H KNOPF
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 09:17:55, -0500
Subject: Re: AOL- CHANGE The SUBJECT
I think we have all heard enough about AOL.
Dave Knopf Class of 65
From: Sandye Smith
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 10:17:34 -0800
Subject: Re: Sandye '64
George wrote:
> Did you ever hear anything more on Vince?
No I haven't. The autopsy results are not yet available. Will let you know.
Sandye '64
From: Johnny Joiner
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 08:48:00 -0500
Subject: Re: AOL vs. ISP
Al,
Thanks for the vote of confidence in ISPs. Do you need a job in my Marketing Department?
Johnny ' 65
From: DAVE HOLM
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 12:06:44 -0500
Subject: COME SOUTH FOR THE HEAT
BEEN HOT DOWN IN FLORIDA..
DAVE H 74
From: D.HOLM
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 12:13:13 -0500
Subject: GET THE SUN TAN OIL OUT
BEEN HOT DOWN IN SOUTH FLORIDA, SORRY FOR YA NORTHERN FOLKS. HAVE A NICE DAY ANYWAY... DAVE HOLMBERG 74
From: Teresa Biesecker
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 13:16:49 -0500
(EST)
Subject: Re: AOL-Teresa '74
Thanks George,
I am a computer novice eager to learn more so I appreciate helpful tips ;-)
Teresa "74
From: DAVID H KNOPF
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 13:57:10, -0500
Subject: I Made it
Just a note to say that I have made it to the Baker Lions mailing list.
Dave Knopf Class of 65
From: SWEENEY JEANNE
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 22:43:18 -0500
Subject: Welcome David K.
David!
Didn't know that you were listening to this chat (I must have missed the AOL stuff). Welcome! What are you doing now? Where are you living, etc?
Jeannie '65>
From: David Reneau
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 22:41:51 GMT
Subject: Re: GET THE SUN TAN OIL OUT
Hi David are you still a policeman good to see your name
david
From: Teresa Biesecker
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 13:14:53 -0500
(EST)
Subject: Re: AOL
Jim:Why not put a smiley face after your comment "quit bitching" to soften it up a little (or were you meaning to be hateful??) No wonder I haven't come out of lurking sooner. People do need to remember their nettiquette and speak politely until you know who you are speaking to. (Just like in business!)
BUT whatever is done please don't let my comment erupt another ongoing controversy. That is certainly not my purpose. I don't enjoy unpleasantness and rudeness-There is enough in the world for us all to deal with without turning on each other. On the other hand, kind thanks for your concern and helpful suggestions-I will check into another carrier.
In Lion Team Spirit....
Teresa Pait '74
From: A. Frank Stringfellow
Date: 26 Jan 97 11:09:07 -0800
Subject: Dumping on AOL
Greetings Baker Bums:
As long as we are dumping on AOL, I'd like to add my dump to IOMEGA Zip Drives.
IOMEGA came out with a really neat Zip-Drive with 100 Meg diskettes and the offered a $50 dollar rebate to purchase one, and another $20 rebate if you purchased a 10-pack of their diskettes. The rebate said that if you purchased both from the same store, mailed in a completed rebate form with the original receipts and the UPC labels from the boxes, you could get a $70 rebate PLUS a carrying caddy & case.
I purchased mine from two different stores, so technically I did not qualify for the carrying case & caddy, BUT I still qualified for the $50 + $20 rebates. Well, the SOB's won't send me anything, NO rebate, No answer to my 3 letters, I can't even get my original receipts back to return the merchandise.
So, I just wanted to let my fellow Baker bums know that IOMEGA is a crap company with a rebate scam. Watch where you put your money.
Kindest regards,
A. Frank Stringfellow BHS '62
From: Keith Pratt, Ph.D.
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 22:40:14 -0600
Subject: Re: Welcome David K.
What is AOL, Alaska Online or what?? Never heard of it!!
Keith Pratt, Ph.D.
From: David A. Powell
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 08:05:08 -0500
Subject: Re: AOL
Did everyone see the Compuserve commercial last night during the Super Bowl. Black screen, sounds of a phone dialing, BUSY SIGNAL, this happens repeatedly, then the announcement "Want to get online, dial Compuserve 1-800-NOT-BUSY !" Gotta Love it.
David Powell '83
From: Jim Davis
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:07:31 -0500
Subject: Re: AOL
Teresa, Tell me please, God, you're not that sensitive! I don't do smiley faces but I don't do hateful either. Sorry if my direct manner caused you any emotional discomfort. I could'nt live with myself if I knew my comments caused you to go back to "lurking". Are you sure you went to Baker? Never met anyone who attended Baker who was so easily bruised. Love 'ya, mean it!
Jim '66
From: George Burns
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:02:42 -0500
Subject: Dumping on AOL
Frank, How's it feel to have more than your wallet unzipped...?
Suggestion on having to deal with any possible return. Go to the store you bought the zip drive from and explain the problem with the rebate refusal. Ask the store manager to pull the day's register tape and make you a copy of the transaction for any warranty problem you may have later. "Most" managers would prefer to help you that way and have a satisfied "return" customer; than have a pissed off "bad publicity spouting" unhappy customer. Once you tell them you're getting unzipped and stuck, with a rebate offer their store is merchandising; they'll probably be more than happy to assist you.
Good luck. George '72
From: George Burns
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:02:44 -0500
Subject: Re: Welcome David K.
LI>What is AOL, Alaska Online or what?? Never heard of it!! LI>Keith LI>-- LI>Keith Pratt, Ph.D
If you are a prepaid AOL subscriber, it stands for American Off Line
Goegre '72
From: Luther C. Story
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 22:11:41 -0500
Subject: UN-SUBSCRIBE
Please take me off of the mailing list!
Luke & Jean Story
From: George Burns
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:09:14 -0500
Subject: Bruised
Jim '66 & Teresa '74
Either of ya remember when a good bruising took place at the rail road tracks down by the football field (just off school property)(at lunch time or just after last period)? "Those" were some bruisings!
From: Rick Foucher
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:48:30 -0800
Subject: Re: Rick '73
I talked to Vince`s dad last night, still no word as to what happened.
Rick Foucher,73.
From: Steve Crawford U.S. Allegiance, Inc.
Date: Tue, 28 Jan
1997 06:20:38 -0800
Subject: Jim Davis' Comments
Jim, does it still give you pleasure to cause so much pain! Even among the hallowed halls of Baker High School, I can remember you hurling cruelties, eliciting tears from innocent freshman, stabbing trusting Civitan Club members in the back with your sharp words, doing bird calls in the library when Miss Owens would turn her back.
Grow out of it, I say! Join the "Baker Bums Who Finally Grew Up To Be Reasonably Warm, Loving, and Responsible People" (BBWFGUTBRWLRP)! It's not too late! Remember... I care! In loving friendship,
Steve Crawford '68
From: A. Frank Stringfellow
Date: 28 Jan 97 07:01:32 -0800
Subject: Fwd: Jim Davis' Comments
Wow, all this time I thought only Oscar P. Boyles inflicted pain, with his wooden paddle that had holes in it so that it could fly faster through the air (less wind resistance for you non-techie types). Talk about pain, that man could swing that paddle 3 times in quick succession so fast that it was all over in less than 1 second. I know, I know, been there - done that!
Frank Stringfellow
BHS - '62
From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 28 Jan 1997 11:42:18 EDT
Subject: Jim Davis' Comments
Steve Crawford ... you scoundrel!!! Great humor!! I love it!! Never knew him when, but knew Jim's comments might cause problems On THIS site.... lot of sensitivity here! Now y'all be good...
Elaine GrAves Baker (R. Elaine Groves in Annual/ Senior Class of 67)
From: Dunn, Keith
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:09:53 -0500
Subject: RE: Jim Davis' Comments
Jim,
Do you still have the TR6? I'm about 1/2 way through with a restoration of mine ...
K. Dunn `69
From: George Burns
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:38:14 -0500
Subject: Oscar's paddle
For those of you who refer to Oscar's fast flying paddle... I'll let you in on a secret. He got slower with age.
I caught one in my senior year... and he wasn't so fast anymore. But I guess his delivery technique improved with his speed decrease. I still got lifted off the floor and had to push his desk back in place.
Old Oscar got slower with age; but more deadly with his delivery. And Charlie Shepard (R.I.P.) had no problems filling in for him either. George '72
From: Burns Rick SCI
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:11:00 -0500
Subject: Oscar's paddle
Just think of the lawsuits, investigations, news coverage and general b.s. that would happen if the kids in school today were disciplined they way we were.
Can you see Oscar's face on Hardcopy as he was being investigated for severly beating a poor helpless child (turns out the kid had 15 priors ranging from battery to stolen vehicles)?
How about Old Man Strickland in jail for putting ammonia bottle caps under the noses of a sleeping student. After he get's out of jail, student sues for damages - claims that nose runs continuously but it's later found out that that was due to increased levels of cocaine in his nasal passages.
Man....where did we go wrong?
Rick Burns/74
From: katherine stroup
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 97 15:40:53 CST
Subject: Re: Oscar's paddle
I will have to agree with you on that point Rick. There is not the discipline in schools and homes now like there used to be. Face it, the softer society is toward misbehavior, the worse the problems get, not better.
When the judicial system stops being so concerned about the civil rights of the perpetrator/ offender, then perhaps they will have something to fear. It all begins with discipline, in the home. When parents were allowed to spank their children for disobeying, we got grownups like Gen. Schwartzkoff (sp) and Collin Powell. Not to mention John Wayne, Henry Fonda, and probably Sen. Fred Thompson. A spanking never hurt anyone. Unfortunately, there are those who take it too far and they have caused it to be nearly impossible to spank your child. At times, a spanking is the best way to get a point across. Not always, but at times.
If I offend anyone by this, I apoligize. It is not my intention to offend; just express my opinion. There have always been trouble makers but when the laws, law-makers and consequences were feared, they didn't make near as much trouble. Tiny Tinker ' 75
From: RAchey9688
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:51:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Paddling
I work at an inner city Birmingham High School where corporal punishment is still used. I had a basketball player get 10, that's right 10, licks from the coach today for a tardy. I can tell you from one who witnessed and got licks from Coach Jenkins, he made Oscar look like a minor leaguer, our coaches learned from him. Unfortunately, they are already getting the same beatings at home so it really doesn't phase them. However, I still think we need to do it.
Just wanted to offer a thought
Randy '70'
From: Foucher
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 22:19:02 -0800
Subject: Re: Oscar's paddle
Here here, , I completly agree!! Rick ,73
From: Jim Davis
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:31:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Jim Davis' Comments
Look Steve, About this loving friendship thing. We were both very young and drunk! Even after hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars at my therapist I hardly remember anything. God, I'm glad you moved to the other side of the continent! Please don't bring this up again!! You are cruel...and leave Teresa alone. Jim'66
From: George Burns
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:27:12 -0500
Subject: discipline VS beatings
Rick & Tiny , you both put it very eloquently. it is ironic, that over 25 yrs. later; the very people who hated that discipline the most... are discussing it with a snide sort of reverence. those "licks" were an extension of what is lost today... discipline. but you're correct in mentioning the beatings they receive at home. if many of today's parents would've received that style of discipline we got; they probably wouldn't be beating their kids today.
but face it... we had some students that paddling didn't phase them either. that is... unless you got one from "THE SHOP TEACHER"; Cody Lee. Now than little man could bust your ass... like no tomorrow! And I know (as the recipient of several) there are several out here that had more than their share of his paddle. and heaven help you if you did something dumb enough to get three or four at one time (relaxed fit jeans... where were you when i needed you?).
there's still nothing like... the good ole days; now is there?
George '72
From: Jim Davis
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:46:33 -0500
Subject: Re: Jim Davis' Comments
Hi Keith!, Still have the TR-6 obsession, but sold the french blue one
in '83. I bought another '75, CF38690UO in '88 and completed a full restoration
in '94 after driving it for 3 years. It's mimosa/black with o/d,air &
factory hardtop. I'm about 1/4 through another restoration on yet another '75,
CF37325U.It's delft blue/powder blue. I've always liked that color combination.
Send more info on your project. Jim '66
From: Jim Davis
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 22:00:50 -0500
Subject: Re: Bruised
Are you accusing me of physicaly abusing Teresa at lunch and after school?
Look, I don't even know this woman and would'nt beat her if I did. At least I
don't think I would...nah I'm pretty sure I wouldn't. A few sharp, cutting
remarks, definately...but I wouldn't walk all the way down to the railroad
tracks for that!
Jim '66
From: George Burns
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 23:18:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Bruised
Duh.... I was referring to the age old Baker tradition of some bully taking some sucker down to the tracks for a butt kicking; or two school "He Men" going off campus to duke it out. Wasn't trying to insinuate you were a woman beater. Oooooo touchy! Hell, I don't even know Teresa... or do I. Teresa, do we know each other?
From: W. J. Orr
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 02:32:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Bruised
I am really disappointed in the way so called adults behave at times - especially when the behavior comes from those among us who shared the common experience of walking the halls of dear 'ol Baker High School. Some with apparently little to do but attempt to score the last insult or make insensitive or inconsiderate remarks should abandon the childish behavior and grow up!
We all enjoy having fun and kidding around and life would be boring without expressions of humor. But come on Lions, get off the negative and accent the positive. Try to always demonstrate a tad of politeness and sensitivity. Continuing disrespectful comments about Teresa who is a wonderful young lady (or about anyone else) is totally out of line. Let's at least be civil if we can't be friends. A little "Golden Rule" philosophy is in order.
W. J. Orr Class of 1959 (respect your elders!)
From: katherine stroup
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 97 07:36:41 CST
Subject: Re[2]: Bruised
Here, Here! I agree!!!!! Tiny Tinker ' 75
From: A. Frank Stringfellow
Date: 29 Jan 97 05:27:40 -0800
Subject: Fwd: Bruised
Hear, Hear, Orr's note deserves a round of applause. And please let me add that people should not try to impose their standards of conduct on others. Life is way too short, enjoy the present, learn from the past and dream about the future.
Frank Stringfellow BHS '62
From: PBR5000
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:16:25 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Bruised
Thanks Orr, we all needed to hear that.
From: Steve Crawford
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 06:30:00 -0800
Subject: Re: Bruised
With all due respect, Mr. Orr... what you are witnessing IS accentuating the positive for this disparate group of mid-to-late-60's Lions. God forbid that they move into the negative before I have a 'V' chip installed on my mother. ...uh, board that is. The old fight song "send the freshman out for gin... don't let a sober LI-un in... we sober up on wood alcohol.... etc" was not just a creed for these folks. It was their LIFE! - > >
From: Dunn, Keith
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:56:54 -0500
Subject: RE: Jim Davis' Comments
Jim,
Way to go!
I still have my Belgian Yellow `74 (CF19929U) bought in Oct `74 and stored, for the most part, from 84-95. I was in Okinawa from 84-88 and then had some mechanical/motivational problems from 89-95.
Once I finally got energized to do a restoration, I started with just returning it to drivable condition. Repaired/replaced all of the hydraulics, added electronic ignition, rebuilt the starter, took off all the pollution control crap, etc. Engine is still pretty much bulletproof ... good compression all around ...
Just recently I started working on cosmetics: had it painted (frame up wasn't needed cause it was stored so much of the time), ordered $1,200 worth of carpets, crash pads, seat kits, dashboard, sun visors etc.
Right now, I have to take it back to the painter to hit a couple of oversights (didn't rustproof the area under the battery as I requested, forgot to paint the spare wheel, etc.) and then do the interior ...
I thought I could get away with not replacing the top but it has dryrotted so, that will have to be done too ...
Have you ever done seats? Looks/sounds like a major project by itself ...
You know, I always liked the French Blue one you had ... when I bought mine there were two on the lot - one French Blue one and the one I bought ... deciding factor was, if you can believe this, the Yellow one had an AM/FM/8-track player in it! Blue one just had an AM Radio ...
Oh well, live and learn ...
Stay in touch ...
Keith
From: Katherine Agar
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:19:41 -0600
(MDT)
Subject: The paddle thing
Wow! sounds like a lot of us have turned into our parents, judging from the "what kids need today is good ol' fashioned paddling" remarks--not to mention beatings at home.
This is a gross over-simplification brought on by attacks of nostalgia. Oscar's paddlings might have done some good--I don't really know. But had they not been balanced by a real sense of love for and knowledge of the students he was dealing with, they might have done more harm than good. I think this is why we remember him with fondness.
Same goes for parents. I'll bet a lot of those kids who got good ol' fashioned beatings at home are still in therapy for the same. Discipline problems among kids today are the consequence of a very complex set of factors. Severe neglect, absent or alcoholic parents (often coupled with "beatings at home"), and the deprivation of emotional and physical affection are only a few of the problems my students have been faced with. Good discipline is necessry, of course, but it doesn't work when the other ingredients are missing. It does work when they are.
I'm amused by the fond reminiscenses of Oscar's paddle, but "licks" were delivered in a context. There were plenty of kids at Baker, even when we were there, who didn't have that context. There are a lot more of them now. I see them every day. And all the paddling in the world wouldn't change that. I wish I knew what would, but I have a feeling that it won't come cheap.
Kathy (Omelanuk) Agar '66
From: Katherine Agar
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:23:12 -0600
(MDT)
Subject: reply to George Burns
George,
I'm sending this via the Baker list in case you aren't getting my direct messages. You said you haven't heard anything, but I have been emailing you. Let me know if you still aren't receiving.
Kathy Agar
From: George Burns
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:11:00 -0500
Subject: reply to George Burns
Kathy, Got this one too. George
From: mwhursey,ppp
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 21:09:54 -0800
Subject: Re: Fwd: Jim Davis' Comments
It wasn't the infamous Oscar P. Boyles that whupped me, but some low
life Vice-Principal! But judging from Frank's description of Oscar's paddle it
was of similar design, if not the same one. Possibly fighting in the school
halls didn't warrant a visit to the "real" Oscar. Anybody remember
the V-P that was his stand-in, or "handled" minor offenses.
Mike '70
From: Pamela Bedsole
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 97 04:14:45 UT
Subject: Dinner with Oscar P.
Lions,
A couple of months ago, I and the '64 reunion committe had the pleasure of dining with Oscar P. As a kid in high school I had a healthy respect for his paddle, as did most everyone. As an adult, what a delightful man. A sense of humor that you would find hard to believe, and still concerned for his students welfare. A compassionate, loving person, I sat in awe of this man as he regaled us with his stories of Baker.
I remember when Oscar P. first came to Baker. I was in the sixth grade and he was, I assume, the assistant principal for the elementary students. I, along with Lindy Williams, Warner Williams and Tommy Long went to Baker from the first grade through the twelth. Should you ever have the oppurtunity to sit and talk with Oscar, it will be time well spent.
Bedsole ' 64
From: DubyJ
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 05:44:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Jim Davis' Comments
For the younger generations as well as for those few of us signed on
from my era I will share some memories of my "paddling years" at
Baker:
Dr. Fredwick W. Kirby, who later became Superintendent of the Muscogee County School District, was principal. He was always quite the gentleman and top educator who was too sophisticated to inflict paddle pain. He delegated the responsibility of corporal punishment to Oscar P. Boyles, who at the time was assistant principal. In those days when misbehavior dictated such we were usually given the choice of licks with the paddle or after hours in detention hall. One hour substituted for one lick with the paddle. To eliminate wear and tear on the tender area, I initially would elect to take the hours, come in the next day with multiple pairs of jeans and undershorts to soften the blows, and ask that my sentence be commuted to the paddle. Seems this defensive strategy of padding the paddling worked.
This tactic did not work so well in the locker room with coach Ed Wolf who was football coach and athletic director. Bubba Ball was coach of an outstanding basketball program at the time. Coach Wolf had a paddle on which his name was engraved backwards and in reverse such that when the blow struck the outline of his name was posted momentarily on one's billboard bottom. I believe the wood shop teacher claimed design responsibility for this infamous weapon, Sometimes Mr, Wolf shared punishment responsibility with Mr. Oscar P. (whom I greatly respect) for the football players who got out of line. He was also judge and jury in the locker room and substituted or supplemented extra laps or wind sprints with a blistering swing of the paddle. Padding the paddling didn't work in the locker room.
From: Thomas M. Mowery
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 22:08:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Jim Davis' Comments
Hey, why don't we all get paddles and head for Jim Davis' house - We can take care of his discipline problem one and for all!
(just kidding Jim!!!)
From: Burns Rick SCI
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 8:02:00 -0500
Subject: [none]
Speaking of Oscar P., where does he live, how is he, and what is he up to. Does anyone have his e.mail address if he's online? How about Mrs. Brady and Mr. Hardy? Does anyone know what ever happened to that good looking english teacher Nancy Pearson? How about Jodi McCauliff (spelling?)
Rick Burns / 74
From: Dunn, Keith
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:32:26 -0500
Subject: RE: Fwd: Jim Davis' Comments
That would have been either Tom Strealdorf of Charlie "Sneaky" Sheperd ... I had a good deal going with "Sneaky" allowing me to get thrown out of the lunch line (remember, Seniors could go through the teacher's lunch room and get in their line) for not wearing socks, and then go straight to the golf course, pool room, etc. (missed two study halls and PE) ... We called him "Sneaky" cause he used to lurk around in the bushes across the street from the school to catch us going off campus for lunch ...
K. Dunn `69
From: Steve Crawford U.S. Allegiance, Inc.
Date: Thu, 30 Jan
1997 06:04:39 -0800
Subject: Corporeal Punishment & BHS
Alas, I too received a tad of physical punishment at Baker. Certainly not nearly as much as I deserved! But only a token from the venerable Oscar P. By the mid-60's the honor of pounding the dudes was passed to Mr. Strealdorf. Because of his position, and my incorrigible station in life at the time, he was my nemesis.
I couldn't count the times I peered around a hallway corner, saw him, and quickly reversed my direction. I recall the day when a lazy Friday afternoon at the rock quarry was transformed into a scramble of terror when someone yelled "Strealdorf's coming!" ...in moments, cars sped off in all directions.
Once I had a dream that I was in a foxhole on the field between Eddy Jr. High and South Columbus Elementary and he was leading a charge of Nazis at me. I opened fire with my machine gun but only jelly beans came out! Hey! It was a strange time.
But what a fine group of administrators and teachers we had at Baker! What an education I received there in spite of myself. You knew you were in an elite educational institution when an 11th grade English essay could be returned by Ms. Uzell (sp?) with a note scrawled in the top margin "Nothing is more odious than a psuedo-intellectual!" Wow, she sure knew how to make one want to use a dictionary!
And I still pride myself on the one "A" I received in Mr. Libendorfer's class. "Friends," he said, "this six weeks you are going to grade yourself..."
Corporeal punishment at BHS? It was but a pittance compared to the cerebral damage inflicted on the teachers and administrators by the students!
From: Dunn, Keith
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:41:53 -0500
Subject: RE:
Mrs Brady still lives on Commander Drive in Benning Hills ... Any word from anyone re: Mr Hardy? He was, in addition to being a great teacher, impeturbable (almost) ... only saw him mad once: we were hanging Sally Edge, upside down, out of a second story window in physics class (Sally was the only girl in physics) and Mr Hardy missed his cigarette break ... Whew, was he mad!
From: Thomas M. Mowery
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 09:18:15 -0500
Subject: Re:
Mrs. Brady is doing well. I see her occasionally at cocktail parties in a particular retired military circle (I provide escort for my mom). Most recently at Martha Boettcher's Christmas Party. (Martha is Alice Howell's (class of '72) mom and married Bruce Boettcher's (class of '72) and Jay Boettcher's (class of '71) dad)
I'll probably see her again fairly soon, so I can tell her of your inquiry.
Later,
Tom Mowery (class of '73)
From: George Burns
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 09:38:14 -0500
Subject: <none>
Rick, I see you had the hots for Nancy too. I've asked the same questions also. Maybe someone out there has a line on these folks. Somebody fess up.
George '72
LI>
From: Dunn, Keith
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 09:23:00 -0500
Subject: RE: Corporeal Punishment & BHS
Well said!
The guy I lived in fear of was Coach Orr at Eddy Jr High (maybe he contributed to your nightmares - I know he did to mine) ... His whistle strap would make contact with the tops of our thighs and bring tears to the eyes ... You didn't go get late slips for him - just the whistle strap ... get caught fighting - here comes the whistle strap ... caught smoking - here comes the whistle strap ... punishment was swift and certain, in addition to being painfull ...
K. Dunn `69
From: A. Frank Stringfellow
Date: 30 Jan 97 06:02:12 -0800
Subject: Oscar's paddle
Bums,
I had no idea that my earlier comment about Oscar's paddle would generate sooooo much mail, thoughts and expressions. I did not know that his paddle rep. was that well known. I thought just us incorrigibles knew the intimate details of that wood.
So let me go on record. I had a "fearful" respect for Oscar while I was at Baker. I saw him at my 20-year reunion and we spoke, and yes, he is a sensitive person and I admire him now. So Oscar, if you are eaves-dropping in, you are OK in my book and I'm sure that I deserved every one of those butt-paddlings you gave me. I was not a well behaved teenager, I admit that.
One last thought; I believed in corporal punishment, I thought that discipline was supposed to be administered with a paddle or a belt. In the sunset of my life, I look back at the way I raised my two children. Yes, they got spanked when needed, but I never "beat" them or hit them with a fist or anything like that. Today, they are both college-graduates, both school teachers, both are married and own homes, neither smoke and neither do drugs, neither has been to jail. So I must have done something right. However, when I think back on the times I did spank them, it makes me feel really bad. Bad that I did, Bad that I didn't know of a better way, Bad that I was so weak as to strike a person that I loved so much. I have apologized to both of my kids for ever having to spank them and I have asked them to try really hard not to spank their kids. So far, it's working. Thanks be to God.
Kindest regards,
From: Dunn, Keith
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 10:20:55 -0500
Subject: RE:
Hey Mow,
Is Alice's sister (wasn't her name Lori?) and her husband here at Port Canaveral? I saw a notice announcing a change of command for MTMC at the Port, and I thought the one assuming command was named Buxton. Isn't that the same name as Alice's brother-in-law?
Maybe that will get Fry, Bruce and you back down more often ...
Keith
From: A. Frank Stringfellow
Date: 30 Jan 97 06:30:15 -0800
Subject: Fwd: Jim Davis' Comments
Hey, let's all just get together and have a beer! To hell with the paddles.
Kindest regards,
A. Frank Stringfellow, BHS '62
From: William Plock
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:16:34 -0500
Subject: Re:
Seems like Baker Lions don't have much to do with their free time except critique getting hit with a board.
From: Foucher
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 18:46:55 -0800
Subject: Keith
> > Mayby you could help. I was talking to Marlin Gibson on line awhile
back, and the next time I tried his phone was disconected. His address is 850
2nd st. Merritt Island, Fl. Is there any way you could check? He said he was
working on subs at the port at the time.
I don`t know if you know of him,
but we were both class of 73. Any thing you could do would be appreciated.
Rick Foucher
From: Sandye Smith
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 18:05:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Dinner with Oscar P.
Danny Bedsole wrote:
>Lions,
>A couple of months ago, I and the '64 reunion committe had the
pleasure of dining with Oscar P.
Bravo!! I agree completely.
Sandye
From: Sandye Smith
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 18:09:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re:
Rick wrote:
>Speaking of Oscar P., where does he live, how is he, and what is he up to.
>
Mr. Boyles lives in Smiths, Ala. right outside Phenix City. He
is retired now and is doing very well and enjoying life.
Mr. Hardy still lives in Columbus but I never see him.
Sandye '64
From: Jim Davis
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 18:54:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Bruised
It was a joke...I don't think my bizarre sense of humor is going over well on this list. From now on I'll leave the funny stuff to Steve Crawford. Jim Davis '66
From: George Burns
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 20:17:42 -0500
Subject: Sandye '64
Sandye'
If you ever get a chance to see Oscar P. , tell him what's been written in the last couple of days. I'm sure he'd get a charge out of it. Not that all we remember of him is "the paddle", but the humor at which we all seem to be looking at this with.
George '72
MRO