Lions-L Discussion List - June, 1996

From: Bob Brown
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 96 19:01:04 EDT
Subject: Mr. Boyles

Sandye Johnson Smith sent in a nice picture of Mr. Boyles, and I scoffed an older one out of the '64 _Arrowhead_. Trying to put together a page for Oscar P. made me realize how little I know about him... not even when his last year as Principal was.

I'd appreciate it if anyone who knows any Web-page-able facts about Mr. Boyles would e-mail them to me so I can do a better job with his page. (Sending to me instead of the list is probably preferable because people from other years aren't interested, and it's all going to be there on the Web page anyway.)

Thanks! --Bob '65

From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 3 Jul 1996 13:31:50 EDT
Subject: Mr. Boyles

Bite your tongue, Bob..... people from other years may well be interested ..... I AM. But I can't always get to a computer with a Netscape program so still haven't even seen his web page...or yours...for that matter...I did get to "sneak a peek" at Mr. Liebendorfer one day a couple of weeks ago.. Also I had access to Baker's Best long enough to print out a couple of copies of classes 67 - 70. Those are the classes that are in the annual I have in my possession. My sister, Sandra Graves '69, no longer has her annual. The house she rented several years ago was consumed by fire. Neither she nor her children were hurt but they lost their pets and everything else. She is now a teacher. I told her to tell me how she wants everything worded and I will input it to you.

From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 3 Jul 1996 14:28:48 EDT
Subject: Re: Definition needed!

LI>+- On Thursday (6/27/1996 16:24) lions-l@Baker.HS.org wrote-

LI>> And now ..... Marie..... what is a bagel detonator?
LI>> R. Elaine Groves 67 .... Graves really

LI>Uh, that's 'donator', not 'detonator'...
LI>I've been known to bring in several bags of
LI>bagels at a time for the consultants I work with to munch on...
LI>It became so well appreciated that one of them named a
LI>new machine 'bagel' in honor of my "philanthropic
LI>deeds" as he refered to it...

LI>Marie '80, who probably just gave you way more information
LI>than you wanted and who doesn't blow up bagels... honest, I don't. :)
LI>==============================================================
LI>Marie Powell LI>CISE Consultant/Bagel Donator
............Hmmmmmmm.....
Seems like he should have named that machine "Marie" After the bagel philanthropist, herself!

This from Elaine.. Different mood, different day. (R. Elaine Groves '67)
really Graves (Baker...married name).

P. S. Did you have Mr. Bruce for Government Class?

From: Bob Brown
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 96 13:27:41 EDT
Subject: What's In A Name?

We're truly closing in on done with the class rolls, and it occurs to me that there's something missing: a name for this project.

I've been referring to it variously as the Baker Internet project, the Baker web page, and the virtual Baker. None of these has a real ring to it. Some of you may remember that I suggested the "On Lions" last summer, but the response was, "EEEEEeeeeyeeewww, that's dis*gus*ting!" I guess not everyone enjoys a pun. <grin>

OK... what *do* we call ourselves?

--Bob '65

From: FNHayson
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:29:01 -0400
Subject: Re: What's In A Name?

Lion Safari

From: Marie M. Powell
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 18:22:36 EDT
Subject: Mr. Bruce

+- On Wednesday (7/3/1996 14:28) Elaine Groves '67 wrote-

> P. S. Did you have Mr. Bruce for Government Class?

I honestly don't remember who I had for history/social sciences... (Can you guess what my least favorite classes were? ;) ) Bruce doesn't ring any bells, though, so I probably didn't. Now that I think of it, his name doesn't even sound vaguely familiar. He might not have been at BHS when I was there... I'll check on that (eventually)...

Marie '80, who still hasn't had access to her yearbooks since she's joined this list...

From: Dell Emerson
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:17:45 -0400
Subject: Re: What's In A Name?

>Lion Safari
>
Lion Safari is pretty cool. Also the "Lions Roar" might still be effective
seeings that we all going to be hollering at each other over the I-net.

From: RAchey9688
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:56:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Mr. Bruce

Mr. Bruce left Baker during the 1970 graduating class. He had to move to Arizona due to his wife's cerebal palsy. I ran into him at O'Hare Airport in the late 70's and he was back in Columbus working as a professor at Columbus College. His wife had recovered well enough for them to return. That was the last I heard from him. R.Achey

From: Johnny Joiner
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 23:20:13 -0400
Subject: RE: What's In A Name?

Bob,

Since we are all proud to have been Baker students, how about something like ' The Lions Pride ' ? If you don't like that one, think about ' The Lions Den '.

Johnny ' 65

From: Glenda E. Hall
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 00:16:38 -0400
Subject: RE: What's In A Name?

Bob, I really like the name that Johnny Joiner came up with "The Lions Pride". I think that says it all. I know I am proud to have been a "Lion". Glenda

From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 8 Jul 1996 09:15:10 EDT
Subject: What's In A Name?

Would the name The Lion's Pride be the listing on the internet? Or would Baker High School still be listed?

I like Johnny's idea of "The Lion's Pride", but would like to know that a person could still input "Baker High School" and come up with the current webpages on a search. I hate trusting the human memory. Some of us Army Brats were totally confused by the time we got into high school. My mom followed my dad everywhere she could (and we kids followed her like ducks), so I attended 11 different elementary schools. I went to 4 different High Schools (1 each year). It seems to me that each school had various symbols with which students identified.

I had not remembered the lion mascot till I got to the webpage. I kept wondering at various references to "lions". Then I began to remember a mascot. Wasn't it stolen one year? Or was that traditional? Wasn't there a statue of a lion that was carried to the various sports events? Did someone steal some other school's live "goat" mascot? Wasn't the Yearbook called "the Arrowhead"?

During my freshman year, I attended the Verdun American School in Verdun, France. The name of the Yearbook was the Veridunum. I don't recall a mascot. During my Sophomore year, I attended Mineral Wells Senior High School in Mineral Wells, Texas. Our mascot was a burro and the Yearbook was called "The Burro". In my Junior year, I attended Pine Forest High School in Fayetteville, North Carolina. Pine Forest was often symbolized by a bust of Robert E. Lee and the school sports teams were called the "Rebels". The Yearbook was called the "Pifonica". It had a big pine cone picture on the front.

Elaine Graves Baker...(R. Elaine Groves 67)

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:54:30 -0400
Subject: My 2 Cents Worth

In a message dated 96-07-07 04:02:07 EDT, Johnny Joiner wrote:

<< Since we are all proud to have been Baker students, how about something like ' The Lions Pride ' ? If you don't like that one, think about ' The Lions Den '. >>

How about "A pride of Lions" - I do like the Lions' Pride though. I have been thinking of suggesting to Bob that we have a "memories" section with stories and legends, etc (extracted from these e-mails) called the "Lions' Lore"

In a message dated 96-06-27 04:02:12 EDT, Elaine Baker (R. Elaine Groves '67) wrote:

<< In fact, a group of us on the Ft Bragg BBS decided one day to start meeting at Fat Daddys once in awhile so we could put faces with names. Because we have public users and lots of young soldiers sometimes the age groups are a little unbalanced. It does not cause me a problem and sometimes there are others there who are my age or older but some people do have a problem with it. I find that it keeps me from getting too set in my ways when I am off balance once in awhile. I learn to adjust my equilibrium consciously. >>

Glad to see the way you operate. I think the troops stop respecting us when we fail to listen to them. They'll give us lip service, but true respectr comes when we are able to keep our balance in all types of situations without resorting to force (rank).

In a message dated 96-06-27 04:02:12 EDT, Bob Brown wrote:

<< LI> As Jeannie said in an earlier message, please do continue to LI>communicate with us; this mailing list is a bright spot in a lot of LI>people's days! LI> --Bob '65 I plan to continue....I love this kind of thing... It is fun! >>

Ditto both sentiments!

In a message dated 96-07-01 04:01:47 EDT, Bob Brown wrote:

<< Sandye Johnson Smith sent in a nice picture of Mr. Boyles, and I scoffed an older one out of the '64 _Arrowhead_. Trying to put together a page for Oscar P. made me realize how little I know about him... not even when his last year as Principal was.

I'd appreciate it if anyone who knows any Web-page-able facts about Mr. Boyles would e-mail them to me so I can do a better job with his page. (Sending to me instead of the list is probably preferable because people from other years aren't interested, and it's all going to be there on the Web page anyway.) >>

Bob - I've been extracting the stories & sentiments about Mr. Boyles from these lists so that they can be used in a page. Let's get our heads together so we don't duplicate the work

Mike '64

From: Marie M. Powell
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 14:06:38 EDT
Subject: Re: What's In A Name?

> Bob, I really like the name that Johnny Joiner came up with "The Lions
> Pride". I think that says it all. I know I am proud to have been a
> "Lion". Glenda
>

I like it too!

FYI:
The yearbook had been titled the Arrowhead, but I don't know until when... I first attended BHS in 1976, and by then the book was called The Lion's Pride. I was on the yearbook staff for 3 years... and came up with the theme for my Sr. yearbook. :)

WWW search engines look at the first few lines of an http file (maybe even the whole file... Bob?), so if the file contains "Baker High School," the BHS page will show up in the search no matter what we call it.

Marie '80

From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 9 Jul 1996 11:04:44 EDT
Subject: Re: What's In A Name?

Great!! Then I would definitely go for Johnny's idea..."The Lion's Pride". Great name, did you come up with the name Marie, as well as, the theme for your yearbook? "The Lion's Pride". It is a play on words (which I find interesting in the English language), and it gives us a sense of belonging and acceptance which is also always good. (Good for our Spirits.....Very Upbeat). {]|:+)>

Have a better and better day!

Elaine Graves Baker (Groves, R. Elaine '67)

From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 9 Jul 1996 11:04:44 EDT
Subject: Re: What's In A Name?

From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 9 Jul 1996 16:01:48 EDT
Subject: Re: What's In A Name?

LI>>Lion Safari is pretty cool. Also the "Lions Roar" might still be effective LI>seeings that we all going to be hollering at each other over the I-net.

Also "Lions Online" or "Baker Lions Online" or "Bakers'Best Online" or simply "Bakers' Best" or "Pride of the Lion" (opposite of "The Pride of the Lions"), or "The Lion's Tale" or "Lion Prints" or "Trail of Lions" or "The Lions' Path", etc., etc., etc., Elaine Graves Baker (Groves, R. Elaine '67)

From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 9 Jul 1996 16:16:34 EDT
Subject: Re: Mr. Bruce

LI>Mr. Bruce left Baker during the 1970 graduating class.

LI>R.Achey

Thanks for letting me know. I remember him as a radical teacher. He allowed us to legallize all kinds of illicit things. Set us up as Congress so we could see by role playing "how laws were passed", etc. I have had many a discussion with kids about legallizing things in order to better control them and how laws are made but not necessarily enforced. Thanks to Mr. Bruce...I am considered somewhat radical myself! May God "shower" blessings on Mr. Bruce and his family!

Elaine Graves Baker (Groves, R. Elaine '67)

From: Bob Brown
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 96 20:05:54 EDT
Subject: Lion Alert

This is to former lions in Atlanta:

I am visiting from Nebraska for the remainder of the month. Jeannie Sweeney wants to get together soon. Anybody else available to maybe have dinner one night this weeend in Atlanta? I am thinking particularly of Bob Brown, Debbie Valentine, Ron and Mike Johnson, but don't know who else is around. I will call Debbie Thursday to see what's what. Meanwhile I can get messages at this (my dad's) address DELETED. The phone here is 706-7xx-xxxx. If i"m not here, they will know where I am.

Kathy (Omelanuk) Agar

(This message was forwarded by B.Brown because Kathy sent it from her father's address and non-member submissions are not allowed. The list server sent it to me, and I'm sending it to you. <grin> )

From: C. Rolf Milton
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 23:46:36 -0800
Subject: Re: Suggestion

How about a section entitled: What ever happened to __________?

Sure would like to know whatever happend to some '67 folks, among others.

Rolf - -- C. Rolf Milton, Realtor
http://www.ak.net/crolf/ - come visit!

From: Rod Weiss, Sr.
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 96 00:25:03 UT
Subject: Class of 56 Reunion

If you are a member of the class of 56, here is the latest news on our reunion.

DATE: August 31, 1996
TIME: 6:30 p.m. - midnight
PLACE: C Argos, Phenix City
DRESS: Casual (Wear your Baker T-Shirt if you have one.)
COST: $25.00

Jessie - 56

From: Johnny Joiner
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:46:20 -0400
Subject: Olympic Torch

While I'm not particularly a fan of the Olympics, the Torch came through Hinesville yesterday, and I was somewhat impressed. It was something that I've never seen before, and probably will never see again.

If the opportunity arises, ( I think it is yet to come through Columbus ) try and be a part of it. It is a pretty nice experience, and you'll meet some really descent people that are accompanying it.

Johnny ' 65

From: David M. Reed
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:20:54 -0400
Subject: RE: Olympic Torch

An interesting thing happened to me a few weeks ago when the Torch came through Columbus, Ohio. I hadn't planned to see it, but happened to get stopped at a light, with just one car ahead of me, as the procession came by. It was impressive. There was a couple of Ga. Highway Patrol that apparently were accompanying the caravan on the entire trip, as well as a lot of local help to control traffic. After that was a decorated bus and then the runner. Several more decorated buses followed. I also came to realize that each runner that carries the Torch gets to keep the torch he carried after he lights the one for the next runner. It truly was an event of a lifetime. I was very glad I saw it, even by accident.

Now if they can only figure out how to create enough snow to bring the Winter Olympics to, say, Dahlonega ... (excuse the spelling)

David M. Reed '83

From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 12 Jul 1996 11:03:24 EDT
Subject: Olympic Torch

It was impressive. I was visiting in Raleigh earlier this month. My girlfriend told me to go ahead and get gas in my car because roads would be tied up later due to the torch coming through. I hurried down to the gas station...only to be caught in a huge traffic jam. The torch was coming through, early. I was able to get into gas station and pump my gas...and just then it came. I was a bit skeptical of the pomp and circumstance but involuntarily I got a tug on my heart strings and a since of pride enveloped me. What a rush! Nice trip...I was in the right place at the right time!

Elaine Graves Baker (R. Elaine Groves - '67)

From: Sandye Smith
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 15:53:22 -0400
Subject: Re: Olympic Torch

Johnny,

It came through Columbus today. I was at the beginning point where it was lit for the first time in Muscogee County. It was indeed impressive.

The high point was I got there early and met the runner who a picture of me holding the torch!!

Sandye

From: GlennWells
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:04:48 -0400
Subject: Arrowhead/Lion's Pride

Okay, kids, here's the story. I was the annual literary advisor for the '69, '70, & '71 Baker annuals. While working on the '69 edition, the question came up as to why the annual was called the Arrowhead when the mascot was a lion.

We did some research, most of which I've forgotten, but the gist of which was this: The original Baker mascot was an Indian, so the annual was logically named the "Arrowhead." I think the athletic teams were called the Cherokees, but it may have been come other tribe. At some point prior to 1958, perhaps in a precognizant fit of political correctness (In Georgia in the 1950's? Get real!), the mascot had been changed to a lion and the newspaper was the "Lion's Roar." For some reason, however, the name of the annual had never been changed. We decided to make it consistent, and a vote by the student body was held to pick one of several proposed names. Someone on the annual staff (possibly me, but I couldn't swear to it) had proposed "Lion's Pride" as an intentional pun. The vote, with a little politiking, but, as I recall, no outright fraud, went to "Lion's Pride," which appeared on the '70 edition. And that's the way it happened.

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 12:36:28 -0400
Subject: Re: Lions Digest V1 #107

In a message dated 96-07-13 04:01:47 EDT, Sandye Smith wrote:

<< The high point was I got there early and met the runner who took a picture of me holding the torch!! >>

I think that ought to go on your page!

Mike '64

From: Bob Brown
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:29:34 -0700
Subject: Market Penetration

I've been thinking about how we're doing. About 9,500 people graduated from Baker during her 47 years. Assume, because of the large military population, that another 10,000 people called Baker home, but didn't get to stay long enough to graduate. That's maybe 20,000 people who feel the way we do about Baker.

Various industry pundits say that 20% of U.S. households have access ro "the Internet," which in 1996 means a Web browser. So, our potential market is about 4,000 people.

We've got fewer than 200 people signed in so for, or less than 5% of the potential market. We ought to be able to get *at least* 50% market penetration... after all, our product is free! What do we need to do to get the other 1,800 people who would represent that 50% ?

--Bob '65

From: David Phillips
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:39:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Market Penetration

Hi Ya'll, I think that more people would sign in if they knew it was here. I found it by accident, I was looking for things in Columbus and it was listed there. Maybe more exposure and members who still have contacts with LIONS will help by "Word of mouth" advertising, Hint Hint.

David "77"

From: Johnny Joiner
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 07:45:32 -0400
Subject: RE: Market Penetration

Bob,

I agree with David Phillips. I found Baker's page by accident and I'm sure there's many more on the Net that just don't know about it yet.

What do you think about an ongoing directory of signed up members, listed in the Home Page? A lot of us don't have much to say, therefore the rest of us never know who's accounted for and who's not.

I've gone into ' http://www.four11.com ' for instance ( which I'm sure you have too ), and found people listed as having attended Baker, but I have no way of knowing if they know about our Home Page. By matching the two lists, we could notify the ones that don't know.

Another for instance, I'm sure we all know of former students that aren't accounted for, that we have information on. Should we provide that info ( or how much info ) without their permission? Maybe the ' What ever happened to ' idea could cover some of that.

Johnny ' 65

From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 15 Jul 1996 10:45:44 EDT
Subject: Market Penetration

Since we are free...what is the purpose of Market Penetration? That term sounds soooooooooo commercial.

Y'all are on the right track, though. Look at what has happened with all of this in such a short time. Y'all had an idea over breakfast and put it into action. And just look at what you all have accomplished!!!

I do not have the internet at home or at work. I borrowed my co-worker's machine in order to teach a class. He had Netscape, not me. That is what got me here in the lst place! Pure Luck! An accident, or a coincidence! God gives us what we need. So all of you, just say a little prayer for the Baker Lions' page in your daily meditation!

Also, I think that "crolf's idea" is a good one... Whatever happened to____________? Fill in a name. I would like to know whatever happened to John De Champ....There is no picture nor is he even mentioned in 66-67 yearbook yet he was involved in the same art shows in which I was also involved, was in Mr. Liebendorfer's class. (We agreed to go to the prom together because we were good friends. I was engaged to Tommy Baker in Fayetteville, NC at that time, who could not come to Columbus for the prom).

I noticed that your lists of people in each class do not quite match my 67 annual. Some of the people who attended Baker in 1967 were not on the list. I guess your list just included the graduates. I could send you my annual so you all could scan the pictures. (You would take care to send it back...wouldn't you? It is one of my treasured possesions). Let me know if you want me to mail it to you. Also, some of the spellings of names are a little different. You might want to check that out.

Elaine Graves Baker (R. Elaine Groves (sp) '67)

From: Al Sciarrino
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:19:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Lions Digest V1 #107

Frankly I find little pride in "amateur" athletics, which has beens commercialized...including the torch. Then again, I'm in a bad mood today!

From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 15 Jul 1996 16:15:04 EDT
Subject: Re: Lions Digest V1 #107

LI>Frankly I find little pride in "amateur" athletics, which has beens LI>commercialized...including the torch. Then again, I'm in a bad mood today!

Who are you? If you don't sign your comments...we will never know with whom we are talking.

I agree that the games have been made extremely commercial. It does take a lot away from it. I would probably watch more of it myself if not for all the commercials (what a waste of time...them trying to sellall that stuff and constantly interupting)! But, I understand that many sponsors would NOT sponsor anything if they could not make a buck. What to do?

Hmmm....I watch only what I want to watch of the games and buy only what I really want of the products mentioned in the commercials. It seems only fair in this democratic US to exercise my "free will". Don't forget, you have "free will", too.

I hope you will have a better and better day.

Elaine Graves Baker (R. Elaine Groves [spelling error in yearbook] '67)

From: Joel Eagle
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:32:42 -0700
Subject: Re: Market Penetration

I'm not sure if your the person to ask or not, but why do I receive so
many messages from people who are conversing with other Baker grads. I receive many messages that are clearly not ment for me. How can I stop this? Any help would be appreciated..

Thanks..
Joel Eagle

From: Bob Brown
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 96 17:10:09 EDT
Subject: Bakers' Homepage

When I attend the '76 reunion in August, I intend to make a large sign to post on a wall at all Reunion events with the Baker's internet address in hopes that more of my class gets more involved.

Don't know if this has been posted yet but here's our schedule for the Reunion:

Friday August 16th
7:30 - 10:00p.m. Mix and mingle @ The Loft 1032 Broadway # 596-8141 Casual attire

Saturday August 17th
11:30a.m. - 2:30 p.m. Family cookout @ the home of Linda Thorton Camp
6 Cascade Rd. Green Island Hills- Lake
Bring SWIMSUITS , TOWELS AND CHAIRS!

Saturday August 17th 7:00p.m. - midnight Dinner/Dance Luau

The Sheraton Inn /Airport exit 6

Luau attire with prizes for best costume

For any further questions concerning the '76 Reunion call Pat Bryan Etemadi (706) 327-6643 or Roe Sabordo Ziccarello (404) 297- 1910.

From: Al Sciarrino
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:57:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Lions Digest V1 #107

Sorry...thought I signed it. Still stand by it! Al '64

From: Bob Brown
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 96 12:45:15 EDT
Subject: Olympic Torch

The following message was sent by Mike Forlines, but the mail server had trouble with it, so I'm forwarding it to the list. --BB

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The torch came through Columbus on Friday. Came right by the old Baker High too! For you guys that don't live in Columbus, the Women's softball will be held here. The old Golden Park has been transformed into a first class facility where the games will be played. Also the old auditorum, which most of us graduated in, has been torn down and a brand new civic center has been built behind where it used to stand. The entire riverfront is now quiet impressive.

Mike '77

From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 16 Jul 1996 14:52:46 EDT
Subject: Olympic Torch

Thank you so much for sharing all this wonderful information. I like knowing not only about the "games" but what has been built..where and all. I, for one, enjoy hearing (reading) all of this input (input, input). It is like "music" to my ears!

Elaine Graves Baker (R. Elaine Groves [sp] '67)

From: Marie M. Powell
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:13:38 EDT
Subject: Re: Olympic Torch

I saw the torch go through Gainesville (FL) on July 2nd. It was biked to G'ville from Alachua, then run through town by 20 local residents, who were chosen because of their contributions to the community. What was really cool for us Gator fans was to have our just-graduated SEC wide receiver Chris Doering get a passoff from our Sr. quarterback Danny Wurffel for the last time ever, only this time it was the Olympic Torch instead of a football!

The whole town was out for the event (even though it was 11 pm on a Tuesday night), and it was truly a heart-warming moment for me and my boys.

It was reported in our paper that the torch runners had the option of purchasing the torch they carried for $240. Sounds like alot, but if it were me, I'd do it. Can you imagine the thrill of passing _that_ down to your grandkids?!

If you want to check out all the Olympic goings-on, you'll want to surf through the links at http://www.atlanta.olympic.org/

They have info on each sport, it's location, and all the structures (permanent and temporary) which are being built to accomodate the games, complete with pics and virtual 3-D tours!

cheers,
Marie Powell '80

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:05:34 -0400
Subject: Re: Lions Digest V1 #109

In a message dated 96-07-15 04:01:43 EDT, Bob wrote:

<< We've got fewer than 200 people signed in so for, or less than 5% of the potential market. We ought to be able to get *at least* 50% market penetration... after all, our product is free! What do we need to do to get the other 1,800 people who would represent that 50% ? >>

I agree that the key is awareness. Maybe a little poking around on some of the "unit" and "pessonell" locators on the military bases will give us a lead. Also putting up links on them.

Mike '64

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:53:54 -0400
Subject: Elaine's Name

In a message dated 96-07-16 04:02:19 EDT, Elaine wrote:

<< Elaine Graves Baker (R. Elaine Groves [spelling error in yearbook] '67) >>

Hey Bob, the poor lady has hinted enough, can you fix her name on her class page?!

In a message dated 96-07-16 04:02:19 EDT, Joel Eagle wrote:

<< I'm not sure if your the person to ask or not, but why do I receive so many messages from people who are conversing with other Baker grads. I receive many messages that are clearly not ment for me. How can I stop this? Any help would be appreciated..

Thanks..
Joel Eagle >>

Joel - this type system is like eveyone sitting around the dinner table talking. I may be talking to you, but everyone else at the table can hear. If I remember corectly, you send a reply to this mesage with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. That will get you off the list. We'd hate to see you go though.

Bob - am I right?

Mike '64

From: Bob Brown
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 96 21:57:52 EDT
Subject: Elaine's Name

>Hey Bob, the poor lady has hinted enough, can you fix her name on her
>class page?!

I respond better to a whap upside the head! (I didn't realize we'd propagated the error to the on-line list. I'll go fix it!

--Bob

From: Johnny Joiner
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:33:37 -0400
Subject: RE: Market Penetration

There is another site available to us, that I think would give Baker some very serious exposure. It's called ' Reunion Hall ', and there are hundreds, maybe thousands, of high schools listed there. I can't even begin to estimate how many students there are.

Surprisingly, the best I can tell, no one from Baker has ever registered ( until today ). In fact, the only school that was registered from Columbus was Pacelli.

It's address is ' http://www.xscom.com/reunion '. I registered on it earlier today and being the first one from Baker, it may take a few days for ' Baker ' to appear in the search portion.

However, I would encourage everyone to take a look at it, and register. I listed my favorite site as Baker, so if anyone clicks on it, it will bring them directly to us.

If anyone wants to try searching for a school on it, try Pacelli, or my other old high school, Leilehua. There are thirty people on it from Leilehua alone.

Johnny ' 65

From: Bob Brown
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 96 22:27:57 EDT
Subject: Unsubscribing from the List

Mike wrote:

> If I remember corectly, you send a reply to this mesage with the
> word unsubscribe in the body of the message. That will get you off
>the list. We'd hate to see you go though.

>Bob - am I right?

Right on the last count, for sure!

Replies just get redistributed, so everyone would see the "unsubscribe" message... not really what's wanted. <grin>

To get off the mailing list, send a message to Lions-L-Request@Baker.HS.org ^^^^^^^ and put the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. Nothing else... just UNSUBSCRIBE. You're talking to a robot; if you're too polite, you confuse the poor thing!

From: David M. Reed
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:00:41 -0400
Subject: RE: Market Penetration

Ensure that the reunion committees are aware of the web site. Back we my class had a reunion, there was a mailing to the class. If other classes do this, the web site should be prominently mentioned.

From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 18 Jul 1996 09:08:40 EDT
Subject: Elaine's Name

LI>>Hey Bob, the poor lady has hinted enough, can you fix her name on her LI>>class page?!

LI>I respond better to a whap upside the head! (I didn't realize we'd LI>propagated the error to the on-line list. I'll go fix it!

LI> --Bob Hey Guys.... Lighten up....! I wasn't hinting.

I have no viewer or web browser of my own so my only choice has been to refer to my yearbook for pictures (to "jog" my memory). Since none of you are in the 67 "Arrowhead", I have yet to "see" you. But, I am listed under R. Elaine "Groves" in the Seniors section of the 67 Yearbook. To prevent anyone having troule finding me who may be lacking the same "tools" that I am lacking, I give pertinent information. That simple.

If I had needed you to do a name change (haven't even seen the web page for my class yet) I would have come right out and "asked". Thanks for all the concern though. I appreciate the kindness.

Having been an army brat who really DID move a lot (at least once a year), I am well aware of the possibility of seeing someone I know any day, anyplace. It happens. I enjoy it immensely when it does. It gives me a sense of "belonging" on this earth. In the meantime, this board/forum answers the need for communication with "like-minded" individuals. Have a better and better day!

Elaine Graves Baker (R. Elaine Groves {{{{spelling error}}}} in 67 Yearbook!)

From: Sandye Smith
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 18:20:40 -0400
Subject: RE: Market Penetration

>Ensure that the reunion committees are aware of the web site. Back we my class had a reunion, there was a mailing to the class. If other classes do this, the web site should be prominently mentioned. >

I recently did a mail out to the class of 64. I enclosed copies of the
article that appeared in the Ledger Enquirer to 226 alums.

Sandye 64

From: David M. Reed
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:36:34 -0400
Subject: RE: Market Penetration

Ledger Enquirer article??? Can it be copied and posted on the webpage. We don't get the Ledger Enquirer in Ohio. ;) David M. Reed '83

From: Bob Brown
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 96 10:16:45 EDT
Subject: Ledger-Enquirer

We've asked the Ledger-Enquirer for permission to copy some other, very old, articles to the web page and gotten a resounding "no." I don't see any real point in asking about this one. Sigh. --Bob '65

From: Mike Forlines
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:09:04 -0400
Subject: Re: Ledger-Enquirer

FYI, everyone, the Ledger-Enquirer has their own website (www.l-e-o.com) and an EMail link off of it. Good way of keeping track what's happening in Columbus for the folks that don't live here.

Mike '77

From: Sandye Smith
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:09:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Ledger-Enquirer

Bob,

I will call the Ledger Monday and see what I can do. Maybe since it relates only to us and it is for our webpage they would let us.

Sandye

From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 19 Jul 1996 16:40:20 EDT
Subject: Ledger-Enquirer

HeY? What article in the Ledger Enquirer?
Don't get that one in Fayetteville, NC...

Elaine Graves Baker (R. Elaine Groves '67)

From: Sandye Smith
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 13:30:49 -0400
Subject: [none]

Okay, two things.

Mrs. Gramm has changed her number and it us unlisted so until the next time she is in my office I can't tell you where Phil graduated high school.

Talked to Sam Jones, managing editor of the Ledger Enquirer, yesterday. We cannot put the Baker article on our webpage. So anyone out there that would like a copy, send me your addresses and I will mail it to you.

Sandye 64

From: Johnny Joiner
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 14:15:16 -0400
Subject: Reunion Hall

Glad to see that some have registered with ' Reunion Hall ' that I mentioned earlier. Baker still hasn't been added to the search feature of it yet, but should be soon. I still think it will give us some ' large ' exposure.

Bob, you might even consider adding a link to it from Baker's page.

Johnny ' 65

From: Sandye Smith
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 18:07:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Reunion Hall

Am glad you mentioned it. I registered yesterday and hope others will join in the same effort.

Sandye 64 From: Bob Brown
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 96 18:32:56 EDT
Subject: Re: Reunion Hall

If someone'll send me the URL, I'll put a link on the Scrapbook page and a note in What's New? --Bob

From: Jeanne Sweeney
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:24:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Reunion Hall

I "missed" the reunion hall URL, as well. Please resend it. Thanks!>

Jeannie Penny Sweeney '65
Jeannie Sweeney

From: Johnny Joiner
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:33:59 -0400
Subject: RE: Reunion Hall

URL for ' Reunion Hall '

http://www.xscom.com/reunion

From: Bob Brown
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 96 23:05:45 EDT
Subject: Exhortation! (57, 58, 91)

Next Tuesday it'll be a year since a group of somewhat hung-over Lions (well, not *everyone* in the group) had the idea to put Baker on the Internet.

We *still* don't have all the classes represented. I've made phone calls and written letters, but I'm not making progress on the three missing classes.

If anyone has any ideas about how we can get annuals or graduation bulletins from the missing years, I surely would like to hear them.

Thanks!
--Bob '65

From: Elaine Graves Baker
Date: 25 Jul 1996 09:47:20 EDT
Subject: Exhortation! (57, 58, 91)

Hello all...
Sorry about the "Test" message yesterday... I was messing with "Rules" in our Novell Groupwise program and really cost myself some time (time it took to delete all the "stuff"). Just delete the test message and please forgive me that intrusion.

On the subject of the Reunion Hall, I did sign on. I took it a little further by signing each of the 4 high schools I attended. I made mention of Baker High School as my graduating class in 67. Some of the users in Reunion Hall's forum, stated that they had had some contacts from old classmates from other schools. This is one of my very old dreams...to reestablish contact with some of the many people I have known in my life. I also went into the Overseas Brats Web Page. I found the Verdun American High School listed and signed on.

I also found out that there have been psychological studies done about the cultural differences found in people who have moved around so much. I have a culture! (this may help with the identity crisis some). Maybe it will help me to understand this feeling of not belonging to this earth. I know the answers are sometimes to be found in childhood experience to problems we find in our adult life.

Bob, you never answered my message to you. Do you need for me to send the annual for 1967 from Baker to you? Of course I would need it back, but you are welcome to use it if it will help. Maybe this would be a partial answer to finding the missing classes. My annual covers 67 (my senior year), 68, 69, and 70. But if someone had an annual covering one of the missing years perhaps it could be scanned to disk and sent to you so that info could be input to this database.

Elaine Graves Baker (R. Elaine Groves 67)

From: Bob Brown
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 96 10:26:56 EDT
Subject: Borrowing '67 Annual [was: Exhortation!]

Yes, I *would* like to borrow your annual, but not until about January. I'm trying to concentrate on the "6" years in 1996, and want to hat the "7" years next year. Thanks *very* much for the offer.

==Bob

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 07:42:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Lions Digest V1 #117

In a message dated 96-07-26 04:02:02 EDT, Elaine '67 wrote:

<< I also found out that there have been psychological studies done about the cultural differences found in people who have moved around so much. I have a culture! (this may help with the identity crisis some). Maybe it will help me to understand this feeling of not belonging to this earth. >>

I've always felt the opposite. I've been and lived in so many places, I feel like the world is my home. Used to get acutely uncomfortable when I'd been somewhere more than a year or two and wasn't moving on.

Mike '64

From: Bob Brown
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 96 17:20:35 EDT
Subject: Do We Need This?

One of the design goals of the Baker Internet project has been to allow us to communicate with each other without compromising our privacy.

I'm curious to know whether anyone has received any commercial or other undesired mail which you think may have been engendered by having your e-mail address on your Baker page.

If this is a problem, or we think it might become a problem, we can supply e-mail addresses via e-mail instead of as direct links, kind-of like the postal address and phone stuff that is set up for testing on my own Baker page.

Alternatively, we can fix it up so that clicking the mail-to line provides a warning against commercial use, then gives up the mail address. A collegaue, Tom Betz, suggested this. To see how it world work, check the mail-to link on the Robert Brown '65 page.

Do we need something like this? --Bob

From: David M. Reed
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 18:28:23 -0400
Subject: RE: Do We Need This?

Nope, to both questions.
David M. Reed '83

From: C. Rolf Milton
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 23:18:40 -0800
Subject: Re: Do We Need This?

Doubt it's necessary?!!?

Rolf
http://www.ak.net/crolf/ - come visit!

MRO