From: Bob Brown
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 96 07:42:40 EDT
Subject: Mailing List Administrivia
When I posted some information about moving to the "digestified" version of Lions-L, a couple of people used it to bail out entirely. Electronic discussion isn't everyone's cup of tea. Also, I've gotten "how-to" questions from several people. I'm going to try to post this message about once a month... you can safely ignore it by looking for the Subject: Mailing List Administrivia.
The list server -Request address: When you send mail to
Lions-L-Request@Baker-HS.org (or Lions-Digest-Request@Baker.HS.org if
you're a digest subscriber) you're sending to the list server program,
so just send the commands shown. You don't need to be chatty, or even
polite... you're talking to a robot.
Getting help: Send a message to the -Request address of the list
you're on (see above) with the words HELP and INFO on two different
lines in the _body_ of the message. You'll get some information
automatically within a few minutes. If it doesn't answer your
questions, please feel free to write to me, bbrown, or to
Owner-Lions-L@Baker.HS.org, which is also me, but wearing another hat.
Resigning from a list: We hope you don't want to resign, but if you
do, all you have to do is send a message to the -Request address
described above and put the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the _body_ of the
message. Your request will be processed within a few minutes.
Resubscribing: Send a message to the -Request address with the word
SUBSCRIBE in the _body_ of the message. Subscription requests are
processed by the list server program, but then forwarded to a real
person (me) for approval, so your subscription will take from a few
hours to a few days to be processed.
Changing your mailing address: Just UNSUBSCRIBE from the old address
and SUBSCRIBE from the new one. Or, send me a note and I'll fix it.
You might want to do the SUBSCRIBE first, then UNSUBSCRIBE when you've
started getting messages at the new address.
Getting "digested" messages: The list server can save up a day's
worth of messages and send them to you all at once rather than as
individual messages. This is convenient for people who get a lot of
e-mail traffic, and for people who only read e-mail once a day any-
way. Send a SUBSCRIBE command to Lions-Digest-Request@Baker.HS.org
and when you start getting the digests, send an UNSUBSCRIBE command to
Lions-L-Request@Baker.HS.org
Who pays for all this? Each of you (or your companies) pay an
Internet provider who delivers the messages to you. How much you pay,
and whether receiving the Lions-L messages increases that cost,
depends upon your arrangement with your provider. Funds for running
the server are raised by a group of Class of '65 people who got a wild
idea one Sunday morning and somehow made it all work. Mostly. There
is _never_ a charge from the Baker Internet project for using these
services.
What-all else? If you can think of anything else that should be in
this message, send me a note and I'll add it in.
From: Johnny Joiner
Bob,
When you say " bail out entirely ", does that mean that some
completely quit ? Also, are the two ( or ever how many ) mailing
list, seperate from each other or are we all part of the same group ?
If they quit completely, did any of them give a reason. It seems to
me that there must be more than a couple, because with the exception
of three people, I've not seen anything from anybody in about two
weeks now.
Johnny ' 65
From: Bob Brown
Yes, a couple of people really did quit entirely. There are still 48
people signed on the the main mailing list or its digest, Lions-Digest.
I've been involved with "electronic conferencing" for about 10 years,
and what we're seeing is pretty typical. A relatively small number of
participants generate 80% of the traffic, a much larger number
generate the other 20%, and the vast majority just read. As a rule of
thumb, it takes 50-100 subscribers before a discussion list becomes
active. We're still on the low side of that number, but growing
steadily.
There are two mailing lists that are "mirrors" of each other. The
main list is Lions-L. Its mirror is Lions-Digest. The difference is
that subscribers to Lions-L see each new message more or less
immediately, while the Lions-Digest subscribers get a day's worth of
messages all at once each morning. It's the same information going to
both places... the only difference is when they're delivered.
Some people like the digest format because they get only one message
per day and can catch up on a whole day's news in one sitting. Others
like the immediate format, and we can deliver either one because we're
so good at this.
There's also a mailing list for the Class of '64 that Sandye Johnson
Smith runs. I'm not sure how active it is. We can set up a class-
specific list for any class that can find a volunteer listmaster (or
listmistress.)
Don't let the lack of "traffic" dismay you. We aren't there yet, but
consider that we've only been at this for five months. There's going
to be a notice in the Class of '66 reunion mailing about Baker on the
Internet. That'll bring in a few more. AS other classes find us and
include info in their mailings, our membership will build up.
--Bob '65
From: Sandye Smith
Johnny,
For what it's worth, I am still here and plan to remain.
Sandye
From: Sandye Smith
Bob,
My list is, as yet, totally inactive. However, I will be doing a class of
64 mailout this month and will be enclosing all the info regarding Baker on
the Net. I am hoping that will generate more interest.
Sandye
From: Bob Brown
I got a call late last week from Joann Hart Cotty '66 who is planning
the Class of '66 Reunion. She has talked to their reunion
committee about our desire to do something for Mr. Boyles. They are
willing to do a brief ceremony at their reunion, at which we recognize
Mr. Boyles, present a plaque, or whatever. Anyone (any year) who
wants to attend the '66 reunion is invited provided they pay; cost is
expected to be $50-55.
They don't particularly want a dinner which conflicts with their
reunion, i.e. which occurs on Saturday night.
Taking the '66 folks up on their offer moves the event from Friday to
Saturday, which overcomes the travel objections. It minimizes the
amount of organizing we have to do. However, it also means that the
'86 people can't come because they have their own reunion the same
night. It also arguably diminishes whatever it is we do to honor Mr.
Boyles.
What does anyone think about this?
--Bob '65
From: Jeanne Sweeney
Bob is right, some of us are just reading for the moment.....
I am in the busiest time of my job right now! On top of my regular
schedule, I wrote for 2 technology grants within the last 6 weeks and both
of them were funded and have to be spent within the next six weeks -- almost
$40,000 worth. Things could be worse!
Johnny and Sandye, thanks for all that you do. Trust me, we are out there
and will be back "chatting" with you soon. Jeannie '65
From: WILSON C GRIER
>From: Johnny Joiner
>From: Bob Brown
> From: Jeanne Sweeney
From: Al Sciarrino
Let's bag it for this year, and plan something big for Mr. Boyles next
year...like a 60's reunion. Was he still around in 86? I mean does it matter
that the '86 people can't make it to the '66 reunion. In any event, perhaps
this is too soon...is next year better? Al '64
From:
Nope lets keep it rolling for the 66 reunion, It's starting to gain momentum
and I think a lot of people will turn out for this tribute.
Steve Whitelaw '66
From: Bob Brown
>does it matter that the '86 people can't make it to the '66 reunion
Well, I had a case of brain fade. it's '76 which has a conflicting
date. The '86 reunion is still in the planning stage. Now then, was
Mr. Boyles still there in '76?
--Bob '65
From: clifton h davis
Hello folks.You don't hear from me much but I must give my opinion
concerning everything that goes on the Baker home page. First,ever since I
first logged on the BHS home page I have enjoyed it very much.Each morning,
the first thing I do is sign on to see what's happening. I learned alot of
things about Bakers' history that I didn't know. Although I must admit I get
a little tired hearing about Mr. Boyles because I don't believe he was my
principal (1972-76) but from what I've read I wish he had been. I wish there
would be more 76ers online. We are having our class reunion in August and I
intend to let everyone know what they are missing. Unfortunely, I have lost
touch with most of my classmates (because of my relocation from Columbus to
Atlanta). I would like to thank Bob Brown for posting our Class List
recently and hope to eventually get together with him and my yearbook to
post our high school pictures. I'm in the printing business and with the
Olympics coming my time has been limited.
I do like the idea of the Grand Reunion in the year 2000!
P.S. If there are any 1976 graduates online , let me hear from you!
Cliff Davis
From: Bob Brown
Here's the current status of getting a (mostly) complete roll of Baker
students on line:
Danny Watkins said he'd do '67, and Donna Bowen ReRamus is working on
'78 and '79. Michelle Forinash has volunteered for '73. Glenn Wells
has said he'd do '69 and '70.
That will complete the 40's, 60's, and 70's!
We still need the following: 51, 52, 57, 58, 81, 82, 87, 88, 90, and
91. That's only ten class years... we can do this! We need a
volunteer who can call the School Board and plead for lists of
graduates for those years.
Erm, then we need to get back to work on the faculty list, which
currently goes only through 1964. Jeannie Penny Sweeney did 1945 -
1964 in one giant blast of work in a conference room at Baker back in
January. We need to figure out how to do division of labor while
still keeping up the idea of continuity.
--Bob '65
From: Al Sciarrino
It's great that we all want to honor Mr. Boyles. And we should. As a matter
of fact, I've seen him at all of our '64 reunions, so it's not like no one
has paid any attention to him...in fact I believe he would admit to be
honored at having been invited to the '64 reunions. However, are we going to
rush to honor him by a small token at the '66 reunion, which many of us from
out of state can't make, or should we plan something a year down the road in
conjunction with a larger 60's reunion ( that more of us can plan to
make)...and where the issue of a Saturday dinner as opposed to honoring him
is NOT an issue? Kudos to the class of '66 for agreeing to do
something...but why don't we try to plan a bigger something with more of us
involved?
And another thing...and I don't mind sparking a heated controversy. I
have found that sometimes in regard to reunions in Columbus, that very
little concern is given to the time and expense involved for us out of
staters to make them. It is too easy for the ColumbusIANS? AND other
Georgians to get there. It usually costs me a small fortune to attend. So,
you Georgians cannot assume that because you all can get there easily that
the rest of us can as well...that's why I'm for waiting another year and
planning, and giving us others a better chance of coming down to honor
Oscar. I don't mean to be so blunt...but I am, I guess. Al '64
From: Katherine Agar
After thinking the whole thing over, I believe Al might be right about waiting
until next year to plan something specifically for Mr. Boyles. I don't much
care for the idea of being restricted by the '66 reunion plans already underway,
and I do think some thought ought to be given to logistics and accessibility for
out-of-staters (like me) who would like to participate. A year 2000
mega-reunion is a good idea, but I think the Boyles tribute should come sooner,
like next summer. If we think it is important enough to do this, let's do it
without trying to link it to something else. When I talked to Jo Ann Hart
Cotty, it sounded to me as if their reunion doesn't attempt to reach beyond the
same group of people who are typically involved, and who sound a little tired of
the whole thing.
Al, thanks for being blunt. I'm with you.
Kathy (Omelanuk) Agar '66
From: Mike Omelanuk
In a message dated 96-05-02 04:01:51 EDT, Bob Wrote:
>They don't particularly want a dinner which conflicts with their
Bob - I sure understand not wanting to conflict with another class's reunion
dinner. I also think that we probably do not have "critical mass" to pull
off a very big dnner for honoring Mr. Boyles. The time is very short to do
anything right and hope for a big turnout. For instance, I have not had an
overwhelming flod of Oscar P. stories to compile as we said we would.
Maybe the thing to do is to aim for a smaller, informal get together of those
of us who are rallying around on the I-net. I must confess, I may have to
miss any event planned because of lack of financial resources after my
daughter's wedding this year. I do plan to do my best to see some/all of you
on the way to or from the wedding in Florida in June. Included in the plan
would be to see Mr. Boyles. I'm not stuck on the idea of a Grand reunion and
Mr. Boyles testimony, but a littel time could help.
In a message dated 96-05-03 04:02:09 EDT, Al wrote:
>Let's bag it for this year, and plan something big for Mr. Boyles next
Looks like Al and I were thinking alike.
In a message dated 96-05-03 04:02:09 EDT, Bob Wrote:
>We still need the following: 51, 52, 57, 58, 81, 82, 87, 88, 90, and
So then do we go back and add those like my sister Kathy who transferred
before they graduated? Lots of folks who consider Baker their home.
Mike '64
From: Bob Brown
>>We still need the following: 51, 52, 57, 58, 81, 82, 87, 88, 90,
>So then do we go back and add those like my sister Kathy who
Yes, indeed! We won't be able to find them all, of course, but
certainly we can add those who find us. For example, we just received
a sign-in from Gerald Hensley '64, who considers Baker "home" even
though he only attended for one year, in 1951! I'll be adding Gerald
in later this morning.
--Bob '65
From: Jeanne Sweeney
As soon as I finish this quarter (June 8th!) I will be glad to input data to
help finish up the classes and faculty -- I can go to Columbus and enlist
the help of my mother and maybe some other Baker folks.
June might be a great time to do another article indicating progress in the
Columbus newspaper -- maybe other media, too. I don't mind working on that
aspect, either.
I like Mike's idea of an informal gathering with Mr. Boyles. Mike, when you
know the date that you have available, let us all know. Maybe Johnny,
Sandye, Bob, and the rest of us "just listening in" could get together for
lunch with Mr. Boyles or just as a group. I would love to see some of the
faces who interact via email.
Am sensitive to the problems of those who live a great distance away, since
I lived "up north" for 15 years. We can still plan a gathering for next
year, for example.
Jeannie '65
From: Sandye Smith
When you decide on a date, let me know and I will be happy to arrange it
with Mr. Boyle's since I speak with him on a fairly regular basis.
Sandye
>
Bob,
I haven't been very active lately in the Baker Project but would like to
volunteer in helping complete the class listings. If no one else has offered
to list the classes for 1951 and 1952, I'll take care of them; I have the
annuals. Also, I haven't forgotten about the pictures from the class of
'53...............I just haven't had time to put all the info together for
you,
BTW, I'm now a subscriber to AT&T's Worldnet so I can receive mail there as
well as AOL.
I read the Digest mail daily and try to keep track of what's going on - -
you're doing a terrific job. Keep up the good work.
Let me know if you want me to go ahead with the '51 and '52 listings.
Britt Ware ('53)
From: Bob Brown
Britt,
They're getting harder to do as we go along because of access to
annuals. I'm not even sure there *were* annuals for '90 and '91. All
the easy classes are already polished off.
Hmmm... if there's anyone out there who has an annual from one of
the missing years, but doesn't feel comfortable with the typing piece,
if you can copy the senior pages and mail 'em to me, I'll do the
typing.
Britt, I've sent you the format information in a separate message
in case you need another copy, and thanks!
--Bob '65
From: Bob Brown
Not done, currently volunteered:
We still need 57, 58, 81, 82, 87, 88, 90, and 91.
--Bob '65
From: Rod Weiss, Sr.
Bob:
If you would like a copy of the 56 year book send me an e-mail so that we may
get together somewhere and I can loan it to you.
Jessie - 56
From: Bob Brown
Well, I just dropped into the mailbox a letter to Dr. Jim Buntin,
Superintendent of the Muscogee County School District, asking for
lists of names of Baker High for those years we don't already have
done or volunteered.
If any of you knows Dr. Buntin, Thursday or Friday would be a good
time to call him and explain what the Baker Internet project is all
about and warn him that the letter is coming. Some advance prepara-
tion could change how the letter is handled a *lot*.
If they actually come across with lists, I'll type some of them and
whine to the rest of the Atlanta contingent to do the rest.
If this doesn't work, Plan B is to see who can visit the newspaper
office, or maybe the Bradley Library if they have the Ledger-Eqnuirer
on microfilm. I think I recall that someone mentioned lists of
graduating seniors being published in the paper.
--Bob '65
From: Sandye Smith
Bob,
I do not know Jim Buntin very well but I will try to contact him tomorrow
and see if I can get anything done. If that fails, Judy Nail the widow of
our previous superintendent works there also and I will talk to her and see
is she has any pull. Will let you know.
Sandye '64
>
From: Al Sciarrino
Hey Lions, where are you all? Haven't heard a thing since we started
fighting over Mr. Boyle's celebration! Al '64
From: Bob Brown
We run down at sundown. <grin> --Bob '65
From: Bob Brown
>I do not know Jim Buntin very well but I will try to contact him
That'd be appreciated. The hardest part is going to be explaining just
what it is we're doind if he hasn't "surfed the web" himslef.
Interestingly enough, Miss Katrina Yielding checked in last night. I
didn't know it, but she was Assistant Superintendent for Curriculum
until her retirement. She hasn't joined the mailing list (yet) but
I've sent her a note asking whether she'd call Dr. Buntin. I don't
know how often she checks her mail, though.
--Bob '65
From: Bob Brown
Britt Ware (who just sent in the Class of '51 and a bunch of faculty
information) raised a question about where some of our faculty
received their degrees. I think "Alabama Polytechnic Institute" and
"Auburn University" are the same place, and there was a name change in
the 1950's? Is this true, or am I confused? When *was* the change,
if there was one?
--Bob '65
From: Sandye Smith
Bob,
Your info is correct. My boss graduated from Alabama Polytechnic Institute,
better known as Auburn University.
Also, I was unable to get Jim Buntin or Judy Nail today but will try both
again on Monday.
Sandye
From: Al Sciarrino
Yeah...and I think Baker High later became Andover! (grin) Al '64
From:
Alabama Polytechnic Institute's name was changed during the 50's to Auburn
University. I am not sure of the year, but when I started there in 1953, It
was Alabama Poly. When I came back from the service and returned to school
in Jan. 1956, It was Auburn University.
From: Bob Brown
>Yeah...and I think Baker High later became Andover! (grin) Al '64
Naaaah... It became St. Grottlesex. --Bob '65
From: Bob Brown
>in 1953, it was Alabama Poly... in Jan. 1956, it was Auburn
OK... the name changed between 1953 and 1956. Considering how many of
the Baker faculty received postgraduate degrees there, it'd be nice to
at least mention the name change in "Events." We need a volunteer to
find out. Deborah Valentine? I think I hear this one calling you.
Didn't you change from a Baker Lion to an Auburn Tiger?
--Bob '65
From: Rod Weiss, Sr.
To Sandy:
Rod works just down the hall from Dr. Buntin and would be glad to speak to
him. Also, he knows what office has some back copies of school year books and
will ask them to check for the 57 and 88-91 year books.
Jessie - 56
From: Mike Omelanuk
Anyone know the dates that Mr. Boyles was at Baker. I seem to remember he
became principal the year I graduated ('64) after Dr. Kirby (aka Big Fred)
was promoted. When did he start at Baker and what was his last year? Also,
If anyone knows where he was before he joined Baker and where he went
immediately following, please let mee know.
In case you are late tuning in, I'm trying to put together a page dedicated
to Oscar P. stories.
Chilly and rainy as hell here this week/weekend. Thought we had cold fixed
and were about to work towards dry. Now we have to go back and work towards
warm! This area has nice folks and plenty to do, BUT boy do I hate the
weather.
(Bob - with the weather this bad, should have the April page done and
uploaded by tomorrow.)
Mike '64
From: Bob Brown
I received the following from Deborah Valentine, and she has allowed
me to forward it to the discussion list. --Bob
OK, here's the scoop according to a page in my son's AU Engineering bulletin:
1856 - Received Charter
So there you have it. --Debbie Alderman '66 (now Deborah Valentine)
From: Bob Brown
I've had several questions about whether there's going to be a 25th
reunion for the Class of '71 this year. Does anyone know? --Bob '65
From: C. Rolf Milton
> Chilly and rainy as hell here this week/weekend. Thought we had cold
fixed
Mike,
It just goes to show that you should be living in sunny Alaska, where the
weather is
beatiful, sunny and 75 degrees. Sorry, couldn't help but gloat, ya'll.
Rolf
From: Bob Brown
It isn't clear whether they have all the years we still need, but they
have several of them. He needed a specific written request, and I've
faxed it off to him. Now I'll go watch the mailbox and the fax
machine.
It turns out that Mr. Mosser did his student teaching at Baker in 1965
under the preceptorship of Ms. Nell Coan. He returned to Baker in '71
or so to be part of the administration.
--Bob '65
From: Bob Brown
For those who've tried to make sense of this and not been able to, the
answer is not to worry about it.
For MS Exchange users, here's a message from the List Manager's
mailing list explaining how to turn RTF off for (e.g.) Lions-L.
--Bob '65
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> Subject: Re: What is WINMAIL.DAT?
From:
Britt Ware ('53)
From:
From: Bob Brown
From: Henry Pratt
From: C. Rolf Milton
your name sounds very familiar. What year did you graduate?
Rolf '67
From: Al Sciarrino
From: Ron Johnson
Some of us can't forget, though -- I took Mike McCluskey to my senior prom and
her senior prom (65 & 66) and when I go out now, she's still my date.8^)>
Ron Johnson
From: Sandye Smith
There has not been anything in the paper but I check each week and will let
you know of any Baker reunions we don't have.
Sandye
>I've had several questions about whether there's going to be a 25th
>reunion for the Class of '71 this year. Does anyone know? --Bob '65
From: Britt Ware
--Date with suffix identifier: ( Example-05/15/96-1) This entry will identify
the date the request was made and provide a means to differentiate among
entries with identical dates.
--Requestor's Name
--Requestor's Class Year
--Requestor"s E-Mail address (OR, we could have all responses addressed to
Lions-L)
--Missing Person (Full name with nickname if any)
--Missing Person's Class Year
--Comments (This would include last known address and any other information
which might assist in locating the person.)
I believe we should place some sort of time limit on the length of time any
entry is allowed to remain active (perhaps something on the order of 90-120
days) - - this should prevent the page from becoming too cluttered.
Additionally, I think we need to provide some sort of flag when a missing
person is located and also provide information on that person's current
location; I suggest this because others (besides the Requestor) may be
interested.
Appreciate comments and suggestions.
New Subject: Bob - - thanks for explanation on WinMail.DAT. I couldn't
convert the format, wasn't able to read them, and was about to go nutz. I
now feel free to delete them from my files.
Britt Ware ('53)
From: Sandye Smith
Sandye '64
From: Bob Brown
Don't forget that for a particular class, we already have the
"Question Mark" button on that person's home page.
From: Mike Omelanuk
>There seems to be general agreement that a locator page at the Baker
Web
Bob - One of the Overseas brats pages has a neat locator page. I'll try and
find it again and give you the address. Could serve as both a model and a
link. Seems like I may have seen Al on it, but it was a while ago. How
about it Al?
Mike '64
From: Mike Omelanuk
>It just goes to show that you should be living in sunny Alaska, where
the
Well, I planted my tomatoes on Mother's day - frost killed them that night.
Friday, the morning started out foggy chilly - like London in winter, then by
quitting time it was 89 degrees and muggy like the dog days on the
Chattahoochee. (remember swimming off boat many a day in that muddy old
river.)
Mike '64
From: Bob Brown
--Bob
From: C. Rolf Milton
but it's about that time), but am not sure how it could be implimented. Anyway,
how would it work if we could add a comment by someone's name to let others know
when we last saw them.
For example:
Class of '67
Ron Hamilton "I last saw Ron in 1968 at valley Forge Army Hospital in
Valley Forge, PA. Ron was working as a medic and I had
been meddevaced there as a patient."
C. Rolf Milton '67
Class of '68
Robinson Cummings "I last saw Robbie in Columbus in 1967 while I was
visiting on a weekend pass from FT Rucker, AL"
C. Rolf Milton '67
Actually, I had two ideas. The other was to establish a locator page, you know,
looking for . . .
For example:
Class of '67 "Does anyone know what ever happened to Susan Mitchell.
We were in the same class, starting at Eddy JR High?"
C. Rolf Milton '67
What does everyone think? Is this feasible and would there be interest?
Rolf
From: Johnny Joiner
Johnny ' 65
From: Bob Brown
From: Johnny Joiner
Hope everyone had a great holiday weekend. As for myself, I have
pretty much had to stay around work for the past several days. I guess
work will always win out for most of us. On the other hand, this weekend
will be mine and I plan to spend it at the farm in Wrightsville.
At any rate, I hope everyone made it back home, safe and sound. And
by the way Sandye, I'm still gonna be in Columbus in the next two or
three weeks, so don't forget me.
Johnny ' 65
From: Bob Brown
Donna Bowen DeRamus has sent in lists for the classes of '78 and '79, and
three new people have sent in registration information. Keith Pratt has
sent an update. All this will hit the Web page by the weekend.
I promise. Truly.
--Bob '65
From: Bob Brown
Someone needs to go through all the '65 names. The names need to be
proofread. Then, for those that aren't linked, check to see whether
there's a picture in the annual which I somehow missed. (There are
some like that; I found one last week.) Make a list of the ones with
no picture, too, and we'll look in earlier annuals for one.
For those that are linked, be sure the picture's the right one and
proofread the text, if any.
Will anyone volunteer to do this? If not, how 'bout half or a quarter
of the names? Any help will be appreciated. Thanks!
--Bob '65
From: Sandye Smith
Rest assured I won't forget you. If I haven't been able to do it after all
these years, why now?? (smile)
Give me a call when you get to town.
Sandye
From: Bob Brown
At least a couple of our subscribers are using E-Mail Connection as a
mail package. This mailer puts a line beginning with two dashes at
the front of the message. Unfortunately, most mailing list packages,
including Majordomo, the one we use on the Baker server, think that a
line beginning with two or more dashes indicates the beginning of a
"signature" file, and ignore that line and everything after it.
Messages to the list get through, but you can't send commands to the
list server.
Today I received mail on another mailing list (the List Managers'
Digest) where someone asked about this, and one of the list
subscribers told us how to turn off the offending line.
--Bob '65
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Thanks in advance!
Amanda
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It's unfortunate that the creators of E-Mail Connection chose to:
1. Insert advertising in the DATA portion of outgoing messages
2. Insert a line that meets the defacto test for a ".sig"
- - -Rich
p.s. This message was sent with E-mail Connection
MRO
Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 09:39:59 -0400
Subject: RE: Lions Digest V1 #60
Date: Wed, 1 May 96 12:12:28 EDT
Subject: Re: Bailed Out Entirely
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 18:21:16 -0400
Subject: RE: Lions Digest V1 #60
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 18:25:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Bailed Out Entirely
Date: Wed, 1 May 96 20:01:26 EDT
Subject: Honoring Mr. Boyles
Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 20:26:28 -0400
Subject: Hi
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 08:48:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Lions Digest V1 #61
Like Bob says Johnny, we're still here, just busy in the academic sense
with finals, grades, and celebrations. I'm planning a party for about
two hundred on May 11, at my farm. My daughter is graduating from
Medical School, my son graduates from MSU with a BBA, and my wife and I
are celebrating our 30 year anniversary. My sign will read "free at
last." Have a large tent and two whole hog cookers coming; keg of beer;
mixed drinks; extras. Join us in Kentucky if you have time. My younger
brother, dean is a grad of Baker also. Will be the only other Baker grad
at this celebration that I know of at this time.
Bob:
I will go along with any thing that every one else would like to do for
Mr. Boyle. I would like to see a special event for him with all class
years invited to attend and participate. We know we can do it with the
Class of 65 roster. I am going to try and attend the '66 reunion this
year. Haven't seem a lot of those people for some time. Will try and
coordinate with Dudley Wells and Joyce Harper. By the way, Dudley's son
is getting married in Atlanta on June 1. I will be there that week on
University conference. I plan on going to the wedding. Hope to see you,
big Ed Kirkland and Jeanne Sweeney while I am in town.
Hello Jeanne: Remember that we want to get together in Atlanta the last
week in May. I will bring the latest photos of the family. Hope you
survive the semester. The good news is that it is about over!!
Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 13:19:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Honoring Mr. Boyles
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 14:47:55 -0400
Subject: Re: Honoring Mr. Boyles
Date: Thu, 2 May 96 18:02:03 EDT
Subject: Re: Honoring Mr. Boyles
Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 18:28:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Bailed Out Entirely
Date: Thu, 2 May 96 18:30:02 EDT
Subject: Senior Lists
Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 19:31:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Honoring Mr. Boyles
Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 10:33:38 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Boyles
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 23:23:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Lions Digest V1 #61
>reunion, i.e. which occurs on Saturday night.
>
>Taking the '66 folks up on their offer moves the event from Friday to
>Saturday, which overcomes the travel objections.
>year...like a 60's reunion. Was he still around in 86? I mean does it matter
>that the '86 people can't make it to the '66 reunion. In any event, perhaps
>this is too soon...is next year better? Al '64
>91. That's only ten class years... we can do this! We need a
>volunteer who can call the School Board and plead for lists of
>graduates for those years.
Date: Sat, 4 May 96 06:43:36 EDT
Subject: Finishing Up The Class Lists
>transferred before they graduated? Lots of folks who consider Baker
>their home.
Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 08:57:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Finishing Up The Class Lists
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 11:57:01 -0400
Subject: Re: Finishing Up The Class Lists
>I like Mike's idea of an informal gathering with Mr. Boyles.
From: Britt Ware
Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 10:43:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Lions Digest V1 #64
Date: Sun, 5 May 96 11:25:34 EDT
Subject: Class Names, 51 & 52
Please do go ahead! I have this ambition, or desire, or
something less fully-cooked than a plan
Date: Sun, 5 May 96 11:42:25 EDT
Subject: Class Names - Where We Stand
51, 52 Britt Ware
67 Danny Watkins
69 Glenn Wells
70 George Bridges / Glenn Wells
73 Michelle Forinash
78, 79 Donna Bowen DeRamus
Date: Sun, 5 May 96 20:50:58 UT
Subject: RE: Class Names - Where We Stand
Date: Wed, 8 May 96 22:49:26 EDT
Subject: The Missing Classes
Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 17:38:33 -0400
Subject: Re: The Missing Classes
Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 17:39:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: where is everyone?
Date: Thu, 9 May 96 18:47:19 EDT
Subject: Re: where is everyone?
Date: Thu, 9 May 96 18:47:00 EDT
Subject: Re[2]: The Missing Classes
>tomorrow and see if I can get anything done. If that fails, Judy
>Nail the widow of our previous superintendent works there also and I
>will talk to her and see is she has any pull. Will let you know.
Date: Fri, 10 May 96 06:07:12 EDT
Subject: Auburn University?
Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 15:57:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Auburn University?
Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 16:35:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Auburn University?
Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 19:13:24 -0400
Subject: Re: Auburn University?
Date: Fri, 10 May 96 20:15:28 EDT
Subject: Re[2]: Auburn University?
Date: Fri, 10 May 96 20:15:48 EDT
Subject: Re: Auburn University?
>University.
Date: Sat, 11 May 96 01:32:29 UT
Subject: RE: Auburn University?
Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 08:43:36 -0400
Subject: Oscar P. Dates
Date: Mon, 13 May 96 09:17:06 EDT
Subject: Re(2): Auburn University?
1859 - East Alabama Male College
1861-1865 closed due to war
1872 - the Methodists couldn't afford it, so transferred legal control to the
state which named it Agricultural and Mechanical College of Alabama.
1892 - first women admitted (no jokes allowed, Brown!)
1899 - became Alabama Polytechnic Institute
1960 - officially became Auburn University, even though everyone had called it
that for years
Date: Mon, 13 May 96 21:37:28 EDT
Subject: Class of '71 Reunion
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 00:40:09 -0800
Subject: Re: Oscar P. Dates
MOmelanuk wrote:
> and were about to work towards dry. Now we have to go back and work
towards
> warm! This area has nice folks and plenty to do, BUT boy do I hate
the
> weather.
Date: Tue, 14 May 96 12:27:55 EDT
Subject: Good News!
Well, I just got off the phone with Mr. Len Mosser, Records Officer at
the Muscogee County School District, who called in response to my
letter to Dr. Buntin. It appears that they'll be able to help us with
the missing classes!
Date: Tue, 14 May 96 12:26:51 EDT
Subject: Attachments to Lions-L Messages
One of you inquired about the encoded attachments that accompany some
postings to Lions-L. It turns out that Microsoft Exchange encodes the
information necessary to present data in Rich Text Format (RTF).
That's only useful when sending to other MS Exchange users, and should
probably be turned off when sending to a mailing list like Lions-L.
> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 96 22:32:05 GMT
> Organization: Angry Greycat Designs
> Message-ID: <4egth5$1pc_001@news.halcyon.com>
>
> WINMAIL.DAT, and how to make it disappear:
> see http://www.halcyon.com/goetter/exclifaq.htm#suppressrtf
>
> ...
>
> Q: When I send mail to an Internet mailing list, its members complain
that
> my messages contain big binary attachments. What's happening? How can
I
> get rid of these?
>
> A: Those attachments contain Exchange's rich text information,
encoding
> attributes of the message such as boldface, underlining, fonts, and
> colors. Exchange/Internet Mail puts these attributes into an
> attachment so that they can appear to other Exchange users on the
> Internet. The problem arises when people not using Exchange receive
> these attachments: instead of seeing a formatted message, they see a
> big chunk of UUENCODE data named WINMAIL.DAT if you're using
UUENCODE,
> or a section application/ms-tnef if you're using MIME, each full of
> encoded data.
>
> For communicating with users of other clients, Exchange contains an
> option to suppress sending rich text information when mailing them.
If
> you double-click on an underlined recipient (the underline means that
> Exchange has recognized the name, and associated an address with it)
in
> the To or Cc fields on the message form, and you're using the
Internet
> Mail provider, you'll see a check box labeled Send to this recipient
in
> Microsoft rich text format. Always clear this check box if you
suspect
> that your recipient isn't using Exchange. If this flag is clear for
> every recipient on a message, Exchange/Internet Mail will strip the
> rich text information when it sends it, eliminating the mysterious
> binary attachments. Note however that if the message has multiple
> recipients, and any one of them has the flag set, Exchange will
include
> the rich text attachments in the message, which all recipients will
> receive, regardless of their particular flag setting.
>
> Whether this flag initially appears set or not depends on the origin
of
> that underlined name. If you got the name by typing a literal
> name@domain.xxx SMTP address, the check box will be clear by default.
> If you got it by specifying a SMTP one-off - i.e. by typing
> [SMTP:name@domain.xxx] - it will be set by default. If you got it by
> typing a name and letting the system pick it from your Personal
Address
> Book, it will have whatever value you have set on the name in your
PAB.
> Finally, here's the tricky part: if you got it by giving the reply
> command in Exchange, Exchange guesses as to whether this should be
set
> or not, and when replying to Internet mailing lists, it always seems
to
> guess wrong. You can see this by reading a mailing list message in
> Exchange, giving the reply command, then double-clicking on the
> recipient you see in the To field of the note form, and there
checking
> the setting of the rich text check box.
>
> You can work around this either by replacing the reply address with
an
> entry from your PAB that you know has rich text disabled, or else by
> always manually clearing the check box as needed.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Ben Goetter
> Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 09:23:20 -0800
> Subject: RE: Microsoft Exchange mail to list server addresses.
>
> I have two notes that you may find useful to this end.
>
> http://www.halcyon.com/goetter/exclifaq.htm#suppressrtf describes the
> winmail.dat or application/ms-tnef block.
> http://www.halcyon.com/goetter/exclifaq.htm#quotedprintable describes
the
> soft cr characters that may appear in the message plaintext.
>
> If you use either of these as a boilerplate response, please continue
to
> include the URL of their source, so that readers can track changes that
I
> make in each item. Thanks.
>
> Ben
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 15:28:43 -0400
Subject: Missing Persons Locator
Has anyone considered a separate page within the Baker Web site for the
express purpose of tracking down lost school-mates. Would a page devoted to
this be worthwhile? It would be helpful to me personally since I have
several people I've been trying to track but with little success. I thought
that since we're all so scattered about we might be able to help one another
locate these missing persons. If these people can be contacted, It might
also serve as yet another way to let Bakerites know about the Web location.
Any thoughts?
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 18:04:24 -0400
Subject: Re: Missing Persons Locator
I like this idea.I was only at Baker for 1 1/2 yrs and then knew mostly the
dependent types like myself. Over the years they have scattered and a way of
getting back in touch would be nice .
Joe Butterfield (64)
Date: Tue, 14 May 96 19:05:46 EDT
Subject: Re[2]: Missing Persons Locator
I wonder how such a thing would work, in terms of how we lay it out on
the web page?
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 22:52:04 -0700
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Missing Persons Locator
I think the missing persons locator is a great idea. I'll be glad to
put the first peoples names up to try and locate.
Sharon Morris--Class of 66 or 67 I think I tool her to the Jr. Sr. Prom
Jackie Johnson--Jacquelyn Johnson-- I was madly in love with her and
she disappeared. Any help locating these people would be gratly
appreciated. By the way I just accepted a full time faculty position at
Ottawa University and will be traveling to Hong Kong, Singapore,
Malaysia, Phillipines and Europe eventually to teach. This may give me
an insight into oour fellow classmates overseas.
Love and Hugs
Dr. Keith Pratt
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 23:55:02 -0800
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Missing Persons Locator
Henry Pratt wrote:
>
> I think the missing persons locator is a great idea. I'll be glad to
> put the first peoples names up to try and locate.
>
>Keith,
Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 08:48:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: The Missing Classes
I love it. One of the first missing persons is someone who Keith "thinks" he
took to the Jr. Sr. Prom!!!!! Isn't it amazing how we now can forget who we
took to the Prom...when that seemed like the most important moment in our
lives at the time! I think that I took Annette or Gwennette Johnson! Al '64
(big grin)
Date: Wed, 15 May 96 09:10:51 PDT
Subject: Prom dates (was The Missing Classes)
On Wed, 15 May 1996 08:48:14 -0500 (EST) Al Sciarrino wrote:
>Isn't it amazing how we now can forget who we
>took to the Prom...when that seemed like the most important moment in
our
>lives at the time! I think that I took Annette or Gwennette Johnson! Al
'64
Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 19:08:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Class of '71 Reunion
Bob,
Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 19:09:32 -0400
Subject: Missing Persons Locator
There seems to be general agreement that a locator page at the Baker Web Site
would be a useful tool. Bob has asked what sort of format we should
consider; frankly, when I made the proposal, I didn't have any particular
format in mind but offer the following as a suggested way of handling the
matter:
Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 19:12:03 -0400
Subject: Re: Missing Persons Locator
I think it is a GREAT idea. I can provide a list of all missing 64 grads.
How about it everyone?
Date: Wed, 15 May 96 19:45:19 EDT
Subject: Re[2]: Missing Persons Locator
>I think it is a GREAT idea. I can provide a list of all missing 64
>grads. How about it everyone?
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 01:59:42 -0400
Subject: Locator Page
In a message dated 96-05-16 04:01:47 EDT, Britt Ware wrote:
Site
>would be a useful tool. Bob has asked what sort of format we should
>consider
Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 08:15:11 -0400
Subject: Weather
In a message dated 96-05-15 04:02:00 EDT, Rolf wrote:
>weather is beatiful, sunny and 75 degrees.
Date: Sat, 18 May 96 14:14:06 EDT
Subject: Keith's Coming to Columbus
Keith Pratt '65 asked me to let everyone know that he'll be in
Columbus for two weeks beginning May 20 if anyone is interested in
getting together. Contact Keith at kpratt@
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 01:01:37 -0800
Subject: How would this work?
I had an idea (granted this is an event that only happens to me every ten years,
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 07:39:00 -0400
Subject: Guest Book
In addition to a locator service, how about a way to view the entries to the
Guest Book, or is there a way to do that already ?
Date: Fri, 24 May 96 10:40:23 EDT
Subject: Re: Guestbook
>how about a way to view the entries in the guestbook...
There isn't anything like that now, but that's probably OK. Guestbook
entries arrive at the rate of about one a week and tend not to be from Baker
Lions or their families. The "sign-in" stuff, of course, makes its way to
Lions' pages on our web server, with pointers in "What's New?"
--Bob '65
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 19:07:59 -0400
Subject: Holiday Weekend
To All,
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 22:52:18 -0700
Subject: Webmaster Slacking Off
Some of you will have noticed a distinct lack of activity on the Baker
pages in the past ten or so days. I "became surrounded" by other stuff.
The last thing on my plate... well, the last *pressing* thing... has to
be in the mail to out board of directors by tomorrow, so I might be able
to do the _important_ stuff this weekend.
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 23:00:49 -0700
Subject: Help Wanted (Class of '65)
I'd like to be able to stamp "DONE" on the Class of '65, at least so far
as a project like this is ever done. To do that, we need some checking
which I've been promising myself I'd get around to "some day." Sigh.
Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 17:54:44 -0400
Subject: Re: Holiday Weekend
Johnny,
Date: Thu, 30 May 96 20:15:13 EDT
Subject: Are You Using E-Mail Connection from ConnectSoft?
If you don't use E-Mail Connection, you can safely ignore this
message. <grin>
From: Amanda Hanes (Pathfinder)
Subject: Annoying "sigs" in first line of email?
Are any of the mailing list packages going to be able to deal with this
kind of signature which I see popping up all over the place? I know
that currently listserv and listproc don't handle this, they just throw
the message away when they see it. Also, which mailer is tacking this on?
> -- [ From: Name Removed * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --
>
From: Rich Lenihan
Subject: Re: Annoying "sigs" in first line of email?
The mailer is E-Mail Connection from ConnectSoft, an otherwise nifty (and
free) smtp mail agent for Windows. The user can turn off the ".sig" but it's
not immediately obvious how (or why) to do so.