Lions-L Discussion List - March, 1996

date: Sat, 2 Mar 96 16:25:19 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Baker Monument?

I was working with the 1961 _Arrowhead_ (and thanks for lending it, Sandye!) and I noticed a picture of two students shaking hands, with the school in the background. Up near the wall, there'a s granite or marble monument. It says, "Baker High School Established Sept 194_" That last digit looks like a three, but even with bright lights and a magnifier I can't be sure. Under that, there's a quote from Horace Mann which I can't read at all, although I can read the attribution. Finally, it says, "Presented by the Class of 194_." Again I can't read the last digit, but it looks like a six.

Does anyone remember this. (I *think* I do.) Can we reconstruct the text? Does anyone know where it is now?

date: Sat, 2 Mar 96 22:36:34 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Baker Monument?

Well, I'd be s'prised if it's even still there. I've puzzled over the picture a bit more, than I got out a Bartlett's. I think the Horace Mann quote must be, "Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity." It's from his commencement address at Antioch College in 1859. Now if only we could figure out the two dates...

From: Johnny Joiner
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 21:28:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: I made it

Hello Baker. This feels kinda like writting a letter to a long lost friend or family. As I said in my intro, my name is Johnny Joiner and I attended Baker High from 1961 thru 1963. But that's only part of the story. I actually moved to Columbus in 1957, and attended Baker in the 6th, 7th, 8th, 8th ( yes the 8th twice, because like I said too in my intro, I stayed in alot of trouble ), 9th and 10th grades. I was also in the first class to attend Eddy Junior High, but I believe it was named South Columbus Junior High initially.

I remember those early years very well. My best friend was named Phil Tomlinson ( Class of '64 ) until a Math teacher named Mrs. Williams and an English teacher whose name I have long forgotten, requested that I repeat the 8th grade. I guess they liked having me around. At any rate, because of that minor set back, I went from the class of '64 to the class of '65 overnight. Phil and all of my other friends went on to high school and we kinda drifted our seperate ways.

I guess things really do turn out for the best though, because I made an awful lot of new friends in the class of '65, and even '66. My brother Bobby was a '66er, and through him I met Gwen, the first love of my short life. Everly thing was starting to look great for me until April of 1963, when my father was assigned to Schofield Barracks, Hawaii. Believe it or not, that was a crushing blow to me because Columbus and Baker had become home to me. But, alas I had no choice but to graduate from Leilehua High Scool ( Wahiawa, Oahu, Hawaii ) in June of 1965.

After returning from Hawaii, I attended Columbus College for a short while, eventually joining the Air Force and training in communications. In 1970, I left the Air Force and my wife ( whom I met in Canada ) and I settled in Hinesville, Georgia. I am still in communications having worked for the same company for 26 years now. We are the Access Provider through which I am communicating now.

It is great to find Baker on the net. I have already spent countless hours looking through it's pages and am constantly thinking of what I might be able to do to contribute to it. Looking through the classes of '60 thru '66 has already brought back hundreds of memories for me.

I believe that renewing old friendships should be a happy occassion and I don't mean to depress anyone, but I noticed in the class of '65 alone, that at least ten of our classmates had died between graduation and 1969. It really broke my heart, because there were two good friends of mine there that I had never known were gone. I can only assume that they died in Viet Nam. Can anyone tell me if there is a memorial in Columbus, to honor the Viet Nam Veterans and the ones who lost their lives?

On a more upbeat note, I'd like to say thanks to all who help keep Baker's legacy alive and well. I could ramble on forever, but hopefully, there will be other times.

JJ

date: Sun, 3 Mar 96 22:30:58 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: I made It (Johnny Joiner)

Johnny,

Thanks for the thoughtful note. I didn't realize that Baker had lower grades, although I knew there was something called "Baker Village School" at one time.

Could you please take a minute to explain how that worked? Were the buildings on the same piece of property, or was there just one building? Were the students separated into groups, or one big student body? Were there grades 1-12, or just 6-12? When did the lower grades go away?

It's nice to find a resource who can tell us these things.

--Bob '65

date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 18:57:43 -0500
From: Sandye Smith
Subject: Re: I made it

Hello,

I am Sandye Johnson Smith '64. Your friend Phil Tomlinson went on to greater things. Phil is CEO of Total Systems. You have probably heard of them. He and his family live here in Columbus and his two daughters have recently married.

There is a Vietnam memorial in Columbus. It was dedicated in the past few days but I do not know it's location. I can find out for you because another 64 grad, Dick Stewart, was at the dedication.

I'll bet another person you remember from grammar school at Baker is Danny Bedsole. While we all thought Danny would wind up in jail he fooled us and is a detective with the Columbus Police Department.

It was great to hear from you. Please stay in touch with all of us.

Sandye

From: Johnny Joiner
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 20:33:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: I made It (Johnny Joiner)

Bob,

Man, you really want me to tax my memory, and sometimes it's not so good but I'll do my best. Maybe Sandye can help me if I'm not 100% accurate, but here goes anyway.

I moved to Columbus in 1957, started school in the sixth grade at Tillinghurst, but transfered to Baker during the year. I can't say that I remember it being "Baker Village School", but it may have been.

It was all located in the same building as the high school with the grammar school being in the wing closest to Baker Village. The 8th & 9th grades were in the wing that ajoined the grammar wing and the area near the gym. The high school grades were in the wing that ran Paralell to Victory Drive.

I spent the 6th, 7th, and 8th there before repeating the 8th. In my second year in the 8th, ther were so many students, that we had to attend in shifts. That was really kinda cool, because I attended the morning shift and was out around noon.

At that time, South Columbus Jr High ( Eddy ) was under construction. About a month into the school year, it was completed ( partially ) and we were moved into it. ( Back to full days, no more shifts ).

The two most memoriable things that I remember about Eddy, was an English teacher by the of Mrs Helms that thought I was the cutest thing she had ever seen, ( she told me this daily ), and a friend of mine named Wayne Meeker stabbing himself one day in the boy's restroom, because his girlfriend broke up with him. ( Pretty stupid huh? ).

When we were at Baker in those early years, we worshipped the basketball team, Baker was always in the thick of things in 1-AAA. The teams from 1959 and 1960 were great. The names of Paul Holmes, Robert and Ken Pritchett, Bruce Bolden, Jet and Ronnie Nixon, and Tommy Joiner were the subjects of all conversations back then. Baker never was worth a dime in football, so we had to compensate by being great in basketball.

When you asked me about the lower grades being in the same building as the high school, I couldn't imagine anyone not knowing that, but then it occurred to me that I've not been around Baker in many years. I'm only assuming that Baker is where it always was. My brother, Eddie is a contractor and a few years ago, he worked on the original building ( I think it was when Baker was made into a middle school ). He never said anything about another building, or different location. They didn't build a new school did they?

JJ

>Johnny,

> Thanks for the thoughtful note. I didn't realize that Baker had
>lower grades, although I knew there was something called "Baker
>Village School" at one time.

> Could you please take a minute to explain how that worked? Were
>the buildings on the same piece of property, or was there just one
>building? Were the students separated into groups, or one big student
>body? Were there grades 1-12, or just 6-12? When did the lower
>grades go away?
>
> It's nice to find a resource who can tell us these things.
>
> --Bob '65

From: Johnny Joiner
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 20:53:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Reply to Sandye Smith

Sandye,

That's alot for your reply. If you are from the class of '64, you probably can remember some of the things that I have passed on to Bob. Like I told him, they may not be totally accurate, but to the best of my knowledge, thats pretty much the way it was.

I talked to Phil about a year ago, ( the first time in about 32 years ) and he brought me up to date on some things around Columbus. One of my brothers lives in Ellerslie, and his wife ( Christa Wells, '65 would have been ) keeps me kinda updated, but actually being able to correspond with other people from Baker is great. I hope that this really makes it big.

I remember Danny Bedsole very well, and many, many more. I can't say that I remember you, but looking at your picture, you are terribly familiar. Do you by any chance, remember me? It may help jog your memory if I told you, I was the one who was always in the gym, or skipping school, or in the principal's office.

JJ

From: Johnny Joiner
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 21:42:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Reply to Deborah Valentine

Debbie.

Got your message, and really appreciate it. I have talked to Bobby about Baker's page and I imagine he will be joining us soon. He lives here in Hinesville too, but is in New York on business right now.

Sounds like you have done good things with your life. I think that if I had it all to do over again, that I'd like to teach Journalism. My daughter is in her last year at Brewton Parker, majoring in Elementary Education. She has worked really hard and I'm very proud of her.

I hope you will stay in touch. All of this is just amazing to me.

JJ

date: Wed, 6 Mar 96 23:25:44 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Visited by the Rich and Famous

... or at least the famous. Technology writer Michael A. Banks stoped by the Baker Web page and lingered long enough to sign the guest book.

I dunno that this is especially important, but I thought it was interesting. The on-line world is still a pretty small place.

date: Fri, 8 Mar 96 16:14:40 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Good News From All Over

Some of you may recall that I was fretting about CPU power, main memory, and secondary Domain Name Services a few weeks ago in the long progress report.

Well, I'm pleased to report that an anonymous donor has, uh, anony- mously donated a 486/66 CPU with 16MB of main memory to the Baker project. This CPU is almost three times as fast as the one we're using now, and has twice as much main memory. The best part is that it can be upgraded to 64MB of main memory.

You probably won't see much difference in response times unless you use the master index search, but we'll be able to handle more simul- taneous users before response time degrades.

I'm planning to shut the Baker server down from 8:00 AM to 9:00 AM (Eastern) on Sunday to make the switch. (Later we'll see whether I really make it in to the data center early on a Sunday morning.)

There's even more good news: PeachNet, the educational network operated by the University System of Georgia's Office of Instructional and Information Technology has agreed in principle to provide secondary DNS service for us. There are some details to be worked out, but I expect we'll have reliable secondary DNS by April 1. (Knock on wood.) Annnnd, they'll do it for free!

We'll still need to do something about disk storage within the next year or so, but we're making progress on the technology front as well as on the development of Web services and content.

--Bob '65

Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 09:11:02 -0900
From: C. Rolf Milton
Subject: Am I dreaming?

Hi everyone,

I just had a strange memory come to me about Baker while reading some of the postings: Does anyone remember a wrecking ball disappearing in the early 60's? There was some sort of construction going on near the area that was student parking (North side of the school?). Do I have this right or am I dreaming?

Rolf

Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:11:40 -0500
From: Sandye Smith
Subject: Re: Am I dreaming?

I hadn't thought of that in years but I do vaguely remember something about it. Seems like they thought Tommy Anderson '63 had something to do with it but then Tommy got blamed for almost everything.

Sandye '64

>Hi everyone,
>
>I just had a strange memory come to me about Baker while reading some of the
>postings: Does anyone remember a wrecking ball disappearing in the early
>60's? There was some sort of construction going on near the area that was
>student parking (North side of the school?). Do I have this right or am I
>dreaming?
>
>Rolf


Date: Sat, 9 Mar 96 14:05:27 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Am I dreaming?

>Does anyone remember a wrecking ball disappearing in the early 60's

That would have been in the fall of 1964, I think. It's commemorated in several photos and drawings in the '65 _Arrowhead_. Also, check out Kathy Omelanuk Agar's personal page on the Baker web site. (Kathy's Class of '66.)

--Bob '65

Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 13:51:41 -0600 (MDT)
From: Katherine (Omelanuk) Agar
Subject: wrecking ball

Good grief, you all!

Why do you think there is an abstract depiction of the wrecking ball among the '64 annual illustrations (done by Awilda Otero)? The scenerio was this:

One day during the 64-65 school year, during construction on the addition to the school, Mr. Boyles come on over the P.A. system and announces, "Will whoever took the wrecking ball from the crane please let me know where it is. No penalties, no questions asked. This went on for a day or so, and then the culprit revealed where the ball was buried. I don't know if we ever found out who did it or how. There is also a photo in the annual of Mr. Boyles swinging from the ball and chain.

This led to several incidents of slipping illicit announcements into Mr. Boyles' pile (he never read them in advance). Bob Blaney put one in about the annual staff absconding with all the subscription money.

Kathy (Omelanuk) Agar

Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 15:52:05 -0800
From: Henry Pratt
Subject: Re: Am I dreaming?

Just noticed your e-mail address. I just moved moved from Anchorage after being there for 16 years. I'm from the class of '65, Keith Pratt.

Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 16:42:12 -0900
From: C. Rolf Milton
Subject: Re: Am I dreaming?

hi Keith,

Yes, you got it right, I'm in AK. I live in Chugiak, to be exact. What's it like to leave Alaska after all those years? I've been here for over ten years and just can't imagine leaving permanently.

We just spent a week in Vegas and I was ever SOOO glad to get back. BTW, I'm Baker '67 - or would have been had I been able to stay and graduate. Great hearing from you. Where are you now?

Rolf

From: Johnny Joiner
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 22:13:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Small World ( Sandye Smith )

Sandye,

Have you been around someone that looked familiar, but you could never quite place them? My wife and I have lived in Hinesville since 1970, and have known Don Melton and his wife for years ( not closely ). I have always thought he looked familiar, but never had any idea they both were from Baker. I remember Don ( Donnie ) from back then but never made the connection.

I also remember the Johnsons ( twins weren't they? ) and I remember Iris Jones very well. I had a crush on her for over a year. In the seventh grade however, she never knew it.

I remember Sterling well too. He was another good friend of mine. I didn't know about him dying in Nam either. Seems like the list just keeps gettig bigger for me.

The reunion sounds great to me ( if I am allowed to attend, not being from the final '64 ). I've not been to Columbus in about four years now, and would love to revisit some of the old places and meet everyone again. I'll surely put it on my calender, and hope everything works out.

There are a couple of other people here in Hinesville that attended Baker. One in named Jack Crawford ( not a grad ). He is a retired Ga State Patrolman. The other is one of my lawyers, Paul Rose. He told the year he graduated from Baker ( Mid or late 70's I think ), but I haven't found him in the classes directory. He must have been in a year that hasn't been completed.

Until this year, Paul was also my district's city councilman and the Mayor Pro Tiem. He chose not to run again this term. I understand that his father use to be a State Representative

Speaking of politicians and famous people attending Baker, I watched an interview on C Span, a few months ago, with Phil Gramm. I only saw the last half or so, but if I'm not mistaken, He said that he was an army brat, lived in Columbus and attended Baker. Do you know if that is true, or did I misunderstand?

Later,

JJ ( '65 )

>Johnny,
>I remember you very well. You were the cute blond guy in my 8th grade
>homeroom. Others in that homeroom were Annette and Gwenette Johnson,
>Wanda Johnson and Iris Jones and also I think Sterling Jones who was later
>killed in Viet Nam.
>
>Do you remember Jean Lynch or Donnie Melton? They married after high school
>and are now living in Hinesville. You might want to look them up. They are
>still totally nuts just like in school.
>
>If you are interested we are in the process of planning a 32 year reunion
>for the 64 class. It will be October 11 and 12 (details not finalized yet)
>but I know you would remember a bunch of the people there. Put it on you
>calendar!
>
>Talk later.
>
>Sandye

Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 12:22:31 -0500
From: Sandye Smith
Subject: Re: Small World ( Sandye Smith )

Johnny,

It's it bizarre that you know the Melton's and didn't make the connection? Next time you see them, please tell them both hello for me. If memory serves me correctly, Jean's sister, Susan class of 64, also lives in the same area as you. Mike Farmer, '64, lives in Savannah. There may be others but I haven't found them yet.

In our class we only had two Nam fatalities. Sterling Jones as you know was one and the other was James Lamar Yarbrough. I guess we were pretty lucky not to have lost more.

Phil Gramm did live in Columbus but never attended Baker. His mother, Florence, still lives here (in Phenix City) and has been a patient of mine (I manage a medical practice). She is a very lovely lady.

Yes, the Johnson's were twins. They both live in Columbus and are still identical. Iris Jones was a very good friend of mine but after her father transferred to Texas, I lost touch with her. It's sad that it happens.

We would be delighted to have you at our reunion! We always welcome any Baker grad where our class or not. We usually have several that come from the 63 class and at our last reunion had some from the 65 class too.

Talk to you later.

Sandye

From: Johnny Joiner
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 14:31:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Pictures ( to Bob Brown )

Bob,

I have a couple of pictures that I thought I might scan and send you. What format would you need them in?

JJ '65 Date: Sun, 10 Mar 96 15:54:25 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Pictures

I'll take anything Photoshop can read. I've been using medium-quality JPEGs with a resolution of 100 lines/inch and a height of 2" for the personal pages. I can handle pictures by e-mail, either base64 encoded or uuencoded. My preference is to get them via anonymous ftp at ftp.Baker.HS.org/incoming. If you send via ftp, please also send me a note in e-mail because I don't check the ftp directory every day.

--Bob '65

Date: Tue, 12 Mar 96 12:08:53 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: DNS Problem Solved

Well, when the root name servers at the InterNIC are restarted at 17:00 (Eastern) tomorrow, ns.Peach.NET will become the primary name server for HS.org; Baker.HS.org will be secondary. This is good news because name lookups for Baker will be faster, and if we have problems with the Baker computer, people will get "host not reacheable" instead of "no such host" messages.

The Peachnet folks have been very helpful and cooperative in getting this going.

Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 17:24:35 -0800
From: From: Johnny Joiner
Subject: Happy St. Patrick's Day

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Date: Sun, 17 Mar 96 22:32:52 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Experiment

I've been toying with the idea of putting entire yearbooks on line. This morning I played with the '61 _Arrowhead_ for a bit. The challenge is to reproduce a page with enough detail that you can see it, and still be able to show it on the screen. I've tried mid-sized "thumbnails" linked to full-sized pages.

There are six pages from '61 on line... enought to give one the flavor of the idea. To check this out, go to Scrapbook --> Classes --> 1961. Please help me decide whether this is worth the trouble it takes.

Thanks! --Bob '65

Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:27:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Al Sciarrino
Subject: Re: Experiment

Bob,

I should have reported this before, but I get on-line through Netscape. Every time I've tried to get the class of '61 list, it doesn't come up right. The names (only a's and some b's) override the logo. I tried to look at the yearbook pages this morning, and the problem is the same. Maybe it's with netscape.

By the way, you are doing an outstanding job. I think the yearbook idea is great too. At least general pictures of the school, etc. Maybe a whole yearbook doesn't have to go in...but why not...it's history, right? Who do I send (and where) money too to help? Talk later.

Al

From: Jeannie Sweeney
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:29:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Experiment

I love Al's note
" Who do I send (and where) money too to help? Talk later. Al"

Have been too busy to partipate in the conversations, but I tell you, talking across classes is great. I wondered what happened to the Melton brothers -- they lived around the block from me when we were in high school. It was great to hear that Donnie married Jean and that they were living in Hinesville (did I spell that right?)

Am on spring break this week, trying to catch up with the aftermath of the quarter.... You school teachers out there know what I mean. Bye for now. Jeannie

Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 14:21:36 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Re: Experiment

>Every time I've tried to get the class of '61 list, it doesn't come >up right

Hmmm... I'm testing with Netscape 1.22 and (to be sure we're text- friendly) with Lynx. The '61 list appears to work OK with Netscape 1.22. What version are you using?

Other classes with logos are '62, '63, '64, and '65. Do these work right for you, or are all the logo'd lists broken.

Is anyone else having a problem with this stuff? I think the Class of '61 should have Class of '61 heading, then a white-on-blue BHS Arrowhead logo with the preface text from the annual wrapped around it, then a "Dedication" heading with a picture of Dr. Kirby, again with text around, and finally the list of names.

What does this look like on various peoples' browsers?

Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:18:36 -1000
From: Sandra Robertson
Subject: Re: '86,'87,'88 annuals

Bob Brown wrote:

>
> >Every time I've tried to get the class of '61 list, it doesn't come
> >up right
>
> Hmmm... I'm testing with Netscape 1.22 and (to be sure we're text-
> friendly) with Lynx. The '61 list appears to work OK with Netscape
> 1.22. What version are you using?
>
> Other classes with logos are '62, '63, '64, and '65. Do these work
> right for you, or are all the logo'd lists broken.
>
> Is anyone else having a problem with this stuff? I think the Class of
> '61 should have Class of '61 heading, then a white-on-blue BHS
> Arrowhead logo with the preface text from the annual wrapped around
> it, then a "Dedication" heading with a picture of Dr. Kirby, again
> with text around, and finally the list of names.
>
> What does this look like on various peoples' browsers?You asked for help with putting together the graduates of those years.
It will take me a little time but I think I can put together some of the years. Just let me know what I need to do.
Sandra (Class of '88)

Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 18:52:17 -0500
From: Sandye Smith
Subject: Re: Experiment

Al,

I don't think the problem is with Netscape. That is what I am running and I haven't had a problem viewing the 61 scrapbook.

Sandye

>Bob,
> I should have reported this before, but I get on-line through Netscape.
>Every time I've tried to get the class of '61 list, it doesn't come up
>right. The names (only a's and some b's) override the logo. I tried to look
>at the yearbook pages this morning, and the problem is the same. Maybe it's
>with netscape.
> By the way, you are doing an outstanding job. I think the yearbook idea
>is great too. At least general pictures of the school, etc. Maybe a whole
>yearbook doesn't have to go in...but why not...it's history, right? Who do I
>send (and where) money too to help? Talk later. Al
>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 01:24:58 UT
From: PeteYoung
Subject: RE: '86,'87,'88 annuals

Hey Folks! Effort looks significant but the small images are indistiguishable on my Netscape 2.0 w/17" screen. But hey, you guys are doing the work! Meanwhile, My scanner has come in so if I can make a contribution let me know.

Pete

From: Sandra Robertson
Sent: Monday, March 18, 1996 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: '86,'87,'88 annuals

Bob Brown wrote:

>
> >Every time I've tried to get the class of '61 list, it doesn't come
> >up right
>
> Hmmm... I'm testing with Netscape 1.22 and (to be sure we're text-
> friendly) with Lynx. The '61 list appears to work OK with Netscape
> 1.22. What version are you using?V >
> Other classes with logos are '62, '63, '64, and '65. Do these work
> right for you, or are all the logo'd lists broken.
>
> Is anyone else having a problem with this stuff? I think the Class of
> '61 should have Class of '61 heading, then a white-on-blue BHS
> Arrowhead logo with the preface text from the annual wrapped around
> it, then a "Dedication" heading with a picture of Dr. Kirby, again
> with text around, and finally the list of names.
>
> What does this look like on various peoples' browsers?You asked for help
with putting together the graduates of those years.
It will take me a little time but I think I can put together some of the years.V Just let me know what I need to do.V Sandra (Class of '88)

Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:08:33 -0500
From: Jeanne Sweeney
Subject: Re: Experiment

I had the problem with the overlapping last week, but not today....Not sure what caused the problem.

JS

Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:11:32 -0500
From: Jeanne Sweeney
Subject: RE: '86,'87,'88 annuals

Glad your scanner came in. My problem is time. I have access to a color scanner in the next building (now to negotiate getting it moved closer to my office?). Pete, how is your Chamber of Commerce business doing?

JS

Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:33:57 UT
From: PeteYoung
Subject: RE: '86,'87,'88 annuals

Hi Jeannie! Chambers work slowly so I will have to just build it around them for now. Check out www.georgia-online.com, you can get to bakers Homepage from there through Columbus. Doing most of the work now on the Augusta page. Good hearing from you. Pete

From: Jeanne Sweeney
Sent: Monday, March 18, 1996 9:11 PM
Subject: RE: '86,'87,'88 annuals

Glad your scanner came in. My problem is time. I have access to a color scanner in the next building (now to negotiate getting it moved closer to my office?). Pete, how is your Chamber of Commerce business doing?

JS

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 22:15:16 -0500
Subject: Getting Old!

Well, I knew the time would come - but not so soon. My oldest daughter announced Sunday that she is engaged AND the planned wedding date is June 29th in Sarasota.

Sandye, tell Dick it the proposal happened while whe and I were on the phone Sunday. The kids when out for a Slurpie (yeah, right!) when he called, so it's all his fault I'm getting old too soon!

Since all my vacation will be used up for this trip, looks like I'm out for the reunion in October. Maybe I can find a way to swing by and see some of you - after all Sarasota is a LOT closer to Columbus than Chicago.

Weather report: Too damn cold and windy. I'm ready to retier South rightt now. Ya hear me?!

Mike '64

Date: Wed, 20 Mar 96 00:55:40 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Getting Old!

>My oldest daughter announced Sunday that she is engaged AND the >planned wedding date is June 29th in Sarasota.

Surprii-iise! Not only do you get to pay for everything, you get to be host at the bridesmaids' breakfast! When I did that a few years ago(*), my Aunt Dorothy shook a loooong, bony finger under my nose and exclaimed, "I'm sixty-seven years old and I've *never* had Champagne for breakfast before!" ("Gettagrip, Aunt Dot! It's time you learned about these things!")

(*) It's not what you think. My Cousin Marian, whose father died when she was young, needed an (ahem) older gentleman to fill in at the wedding, and I was flattered that she asked me.

--Bob '65

Date: Wed, 20 Mar 96 00:55:59 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Re: Home Page Review

>I looked at class of 61, 62 ,63, 64 and 65 today with netscape 2.0

Thanks for checking, Wilson.

I think I've probably fumble-fingered something in the '61 index page. It's by far the fanciest thing I've tried. This week doesn't have enough minutes in it (note the timestamp on this message) but I'll try to out-stubborn it this weekend. Trouble it, it looks fine with my Netscape 1.22; it'll be hard to know whether I've fixed it.

Eventually I'm going to have to get several different Web browsers and test with all of them. In the meantime, *please* report errors here, because if a page works with what I've got, I've been assuming that it works for everyone. (Wrong again!)

--Bob '65

Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 01:36:41 -0500
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Try This!

Well, I've been playing with a new toy for the Baker page. The general public can't see it yet, but we Lions can. Tell your browser to open
http://www.Baker.HS.org/aw/index.html
and see what you get!

The "accesses from Baker" effectively means anything done from within DeKalb Regional Healthcare System since that's where the Baker internet connection comes from. The idea is that these are probably me testing.

Enjoy, and let me know what you think!

--Bob '65

Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 05:01:04 -0500
From: Jeanne Sweeney
Subject: Re: Home Page Review

Bob,

You "have several web browsers"! All of us out here in Cyber space. We will continue to report what we see -- and you can continue to wonderful webspinning that you do in Atlanta.

>Eventually I'm going to have to get several different Web browsers and >test with all of them. In the meantime, *please* report >errors here, because if a page works with what I've got, I've been >assuming that it works for everyone. (Wrong again!)

> > --Bob '65

Jeannie Sweeney

Date: Wed, 20 Mar 96 07:35:17 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Re[2]: Home Page Review

>You "have several web browsers"! All of us out here in Cyber space.

*You* were up early this morning!

I know I have several web browsers, and I love it. I'm just one of those Boomers who wants instant gratification. If I think I've fixed something, I want to know *now* whether it works.

But say, there are several HTML-smiths among us. Does anyone whant to look at the code for index-61.html to see whether you can discover the blunder? I suspect a brain-fade in the way I used tables to wrap text around the logo and the picture of Dr. Kirby... that's what's different about '61.

--Bob '65

Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 18:11:21 -0500
From: Sandye Smith
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Home Page Review

Bob,

This is totally unrelated but I spoke with Danny Bedsole last evening. He doesn't remember when the lower grades were moved from Baker but he suggested I call Oscar Boyles. That is now on my list of things to do.

He did tell me that the name of the school was Newton D. Baker School and the area residents were the ones who called it Baker Village School.

Will let you know what I find out from Mr. Boyles.

Sandye

>>You "have several web browsers"! All of us out here in Cyber space.
>
>*You* were up early this morning!
>
>I know I have several web browsers, and I love it. I'm just one of
>those Boomers who wants instant gratification. If I think
>I've fixed something, I want to know *now* whether it works.
>
>But say, there are several HTML-smiths among us. Does anyone whant to
>look at the code for index-61.html to see whether you can discover the
>blunder? I suspect a brain-fade in the way I used tables to wrap text
>around the logo and the picture of Dr. Kirby... that's what's
>different about '61.
>
> --Bob '65
>

John

From: John Joiner
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 05:14:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Oscar Boyles ( To Sandye Smith )

I moved away from there in 1963, are you saying that Mr. Boyles is still around there ( Or even alive )? He used that paddle on my butt more than once. It almost became a weekly ritual. Maybe that's what some of today's kids need.

New subject, does anyone remember the ' Teen Tones ' ?

Johnny '65

Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:55:08 -0500
From: Sandye Smith
Subject: Re: Oscar Boyles ( To Sandye Smith )

He is very much around here. He lives in Smiths, Alabama and is the Headmaster at Lyman Ward Boys School. He generally comes to all of our reunions so if you make it in October you should get to see him again.

Boy will that bring back memories for you!!!!!!

Sandye

> I moved away from there in 1963, are you saying that Mr. Boyles is still
>around there ( Or even alive )? He used that paddle on my butt more than
>once. It almost became a weekly ritual. Maybe that's what some of today's
>kids need.
>
> New subject, does anyone remember the ' Teen Tones ' ?
>
>
> Johnny '65

From: John Joiner
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 19:53:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Experiment

Bob,

I think what you are doing with the scrapbook is a pretty good idea. Those kind of things are what triggers everyone's memories and stirs emotions, and isn't that what wer'e really here for?

I believe that we all owe you a great deal of thanks for the hard work that you are doing to make this all happen. If there is anything that I can do to help, all you have to do is let me know.

As far as the browser problems, I use two different ones and have experienced no problems at all with '61. I have used Netscape 2.0 and Microsoft Explorer ( Windows 95 ) with no problem.

Netscape is probably the browser prefered by most, but Explorer seems to be a little better as far as graphics are concerned. It's just a pain in the butt to set up, but is worth it if you get it right.

Keep up the good work...

JJ '65

From: J Joiner
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 19:57:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: St Patty's Day

Did anyone get their St Patrick's Day card? Did you figure out how to see it? It wasn't meant to be a puzzle, and it certianly wasn't an advertisement.

JJ '65

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 01:55:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Oscar Boyles

In a message dated 96-03-21 16:23:21 EST, jjoiner wrote:

>I moved away from there in 1963, are you saying that Mr. Boyles is still >around there ( Or even alive )? He used that paddle on my butt more than >once. It almost became a weekly ritual.

He only got me once - but I'll never forget it!

Mike '64

From: John Joiner
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 07:42:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Oscar Boyles

Mike,

Once was enough as you probably remember, but I had this addiction to skipping school. I think I still hold the Hawaii State record with 24 days in my junior year.

Oscar P's office was located in a good place though, just a short hop from the gym, so he never had very far to go to find me ( unless I was skipping that day.

Looking back on it now, I guess I must have loved that man, I must have 'cause I spent alot of time with him. How old do you suppose he is now? Maybe when your 16, all adults seem old. I thought he would be around 90 by now.

Johnny '65

>In a message dated 96-03-21 16:23:21 EST, jjoiner wrote:
>
>>I moved away from there in 1963, are you saying that Mr. Boyles is still
>>around there ( Or even alive )? He used that paddle on my butt more than
>>once. It almost became a weekly ritual.
>
>He only got me once - but I'll never forget it!
>
>Mike '64
>
>
>

Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 10:51:07 -0500 (EST)
From: Al Sciarrino
Subject: Re: Oscar Boyles

Speaking of Oscar Boyles, by the way Newt Gingrich mentioned him specifically a few months ago in a speech before the National Press Club. He said that in our day, we as students knew just how far we could go...and that was as far as Oscar Boyles' office! Boy do I remember that left handed swing. He burned my butt more than once as well...but he was an extremely kind and fair man. I mean there was absolutely no animosity involved with him. He didn't seem to play favorites among the social class structure either. I remember him burning me, even though I had been involved with a student who'd been a trouble maker. In other words, it didn't matter to Oscar Boyles that I was a college bound goody-goody. Newt was right...schools need more Oscar's around.

Does anyone remember good ole coach Roberts and "Pig" Davis. They were also great, I thought. How about Mrs. Schuster...teaching 12 grade English. I'd like to find that little red-head...she single-handedly encouraged me to go to college. It took a false start or two, but I made and have thought of her often! Miss Baker...well she was another story...quite beautiful as I remember. I used to just sit in the front row and stare at her. I must have looked like a real idiot to her. I thought of her as an older woman...which she was...but she was probably all of 25 or so!!!! Graduated from Auburn, I remember. Schuster graduated from Cornell, I think.

Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 11:26:15 -0600 (MDT)
From: Katherine (Omelanuk) Agar
Subject: Oscar P.

I guess we all realize how lucky we were to have been at Baker during its heyday. I don't know anyone else who had a high school experience quite like ours. When I hooked up with Bob Blaney after many years of separation, he said he felt that in some respects, he had lived his life backwards--that our high school experience had been a kind of golden age. My children have not experienced this, sad to say. How did they do it? We had so much freedom along with the discipline, so much responsibility along with the fun and pranks. So many class A teachers. So many special people among our school mates.

Mr. Boyles' role as a class leveler was, I think, a key ingredient. He seemed to know everybody, not just the socially or academically elite. I also remember Dr, Kirby's tendency to yank delinquents out of the average classes and stick them into the accelerated classes when he suspected they were underachievers. More than one person was redeemed that way!

Oscar P. must be getting up there. Maybe we should have some sort of mega tribute before it is too late. To hell with waiting until someone is dead. If Newt Gingrich (blah!) is such a fan, maybe he could help make it national. What do you guys think?

Kathy (Omelanuk) Agar

Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 14:10:39 -0500 (EST)
From: WILSON C GRIER
Subject: Re: Oscar P.

I would support anything that we can organize for Oscar P. I don't think anyone had more time bent over his desk than I did as a freshman. How he could remember the names of 3000 kids at one time, I'll never know. I have trouble with names in my class every semester. Just making the commitment to know them by the second week is demanding.

It would be great if we could get a reunion of Bakerite's from the class of 60's to honor the professionals who help us all. Other teaching names have been mentioned, but I would add Bubba Ball and Coach Watkins to the list..with more to come when I get out my album. I'm sure that others can add to the list of those we would like to recognize. If we can't do it in person, them let's do it by this list and send an agreed upon letter of communication to each of them, with each of us signing. It would be like the Declaration of Independence...we would just have to mail the letter from signee to signee and finally to the individual teacher. I think it is important that they know that they have made a difference. I went to see a grade school teacher the last time I was in Columbus to personally thank him for his concern and interest while at Winterfield elementary. I thanked him for all those special things that he did like coach the basketball team, touch football team, and softball team after school hours without pay and for providing the softdrinks from his personal pocket when he really could not afford it, (even though they only cost .05 then). It did make a difference...it will make a difference...for all of us and all of them.

Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 16:27:06 -0500
From: Sandye Smith
Subject: Re: St Patty's Day

Johnny,

I wasn't smart enough to figure out how to see my card for thanks for the thought.

Sandye

> Did anyone get their St Patrick's Day card? Did you figure out how to
>see it? It wasn't meant to be a puzzle, and it certianly wasn't an
>advertisement.
>
> JJ '65

Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 16:37:56 -0500
From: Sandye Smith
Subject: Re: Oscar P.

I guess the 64 class must be lucky. Oscar Boyles, Foster Watkins and Bubba Ball are always at our five year reunions. When I speak to Oscar (will try him again tonight) I will pass along a thumbnail sketch of the interest he has generated on the Net.

Sandye

>I would support anything that we can organize for Oscar P. I don't think
>anyone had more time bent over his desk than I did as a freshman. How he
>could remember the names of 3000 kids at one time, I'll never know. I have
>trouble with names in my class every semester. Just making the commitment
>to know them by the second week is demanding
>
>It would be great if we could get a reunion of Bakerite's from the class
>of 60's to honor the professionals who help us all. Other teaching names
>have been mentioned, but I would add Bubba Ball and Coach Watkins to the
>list..with more to come when I get out my album. I'm sure that others can
>add to the list of those we would like to recognize. If we can't do it in
>person, them let's do it by this list and send an agreed upon letter
>of communication to each of them, with each of us signing. It would be
>like the Declaration of Independence...we would just have to mail the
>letter from signee to signee and finally to the individual teacher. I
>think it is important that they know that they have made a
>difference. I went to see a grade school teacher the last time I was in
>Columbus to personally thank him for his concern and interest while at
>Winterfield elementary. I thanked him for all those special things that he
>did like coach the basketball team, touch football team, and softball
>team after school hours without pay and for providing the softdrinks from
>his personal pocket when he really could not afford it, (even though they
>only cost .05 then). It did make a difference...it will make a
>difference...for all of us and all of them.
>

Date: Sat, 23 Mar 96 20:42:52 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Dave Simmons

Messages from the list to Dave are being returned with errors which suggest right.net is no more. Does anyone have an alternate address for Dave?

--Bob '65

Date: Sat, 23 Mar 96 20:42:32 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: '61 Index Page

Well, I can't find anything wrong with the '61 index page, but I've seen the way it looks with Netscape 2.0. UUuugggg-lee!

Either there's a bug in Netscape 2.0 or there's a mistake I can't find. (It looks OK in Netscape 1.22 and IBM WebExplorer.)

I've taken out the use of tables to wrap text around images, and replaced them with "floating images."

Could several of you have a look at the '61 "browse" page and report what you see, please? Thanks!

--Bob '65

From: John Joiner
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:39:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: '61 Index Page

Bob,

I've been looking at '61 using Netscape Navigator Gold 2.0 for the last hour or so, and everything looks fine to me. I don't understand, 'cause I've never had any problems with it since you started experimenting. As I said before, I usally use Microsoft's Internet Explorer ( Windows 95 ), but have not had any trouble with either. I understand that there is a difference in Navigator 2.0 and 2.0 Gold. Could that be why I'm not having the problems that others are reporting? Or could it be that it only works for Republicans because of Newton being '61 ( Just Kidding ).

Johnny '65

>Well, I can't find anything wrong with the '61 index page, but I've
>seen the way it looks with Netscape 2.0. UUuugggg-lee!
>
>Either there's a bug in Netscape 2.0 or there's a mistake I can't
>find. (It looks OK in Netscape 1.22 and IBM WebExplorer.)
>
>I've taken out the use of tables to wrap text around images, and
>replaced them with "floating images."
>
>Could several of you have a look at the '61 "browse" page and report >what you see, please? Thanks!
> --Bob '65

From: John Joiner
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 23:06:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Where's Debbie Valentine Debbie,

Haven't heard anything from you lately, hope everything is okay. I know this is probably a very busy time for you, but just wanted to let you know that you're missed.

I have a friend here in Hinesville named Mike Valentine, any relation to your hubby?

Johnny '65

Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 20:49:46 -1000
From: Sandra Robertson
Subject: Re: '61 Index Page

Bob Brown wrote: >
> Well, I can't find anything wrong with the '61 index page, but I've
> seen the way it looks with Netscape 2.0. UUuugggg-lee!
>
> Either there's a bug in Netscape 2.0 or there's a mistake I can't
> find. (It looks OK in Netscape 1.22 and IBM WebExplorer.)
>
> I've taken out the use of tables to wrap text around images, and
> replaced them with "floating images."
>
> Could several of you have a look at the '61 "browse" page and report
> what you see, please? Thanks!
> --Bob '65I've got netscape 2.0 and it is scrambled on my machine.
Sandra

Date: Sun, 24 Mar 96 05:18:35 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Re[2]: '61 Index Page

Thanks for checking, Sandra and Johnny.

It's OK with Netscape Navigator Gold 2.0, Netscape 1.22, Microsoft Internet Explorer, and IBM Web Explorer, *not* OK with Netscape Navigator 2.0. Hmmm..

. I was using someone else's Netscape 2.0 to test with yesterday, and don't have a copy of my own. I've downloaded, but not yet installed, 2.01, so I don't know how it looks with that.

My first suspicion was that the use of tables to flow text around images was the problem, but I've jerked all that out, and besides the home page and scrapbook page use the same technique to get two columns. Guess it's not the tables. Rats.

Al reported a similar problem with the '61 annual pages. (I wonder whether Netscape just doesn't like '61? )

Sandra (or somebody else with 2.0)... could you please use the "reload" button after going to the '61 page to be absolutely sure you're looking at the current version and not one saved on your local disk? Then poke at the '61 annual pages a bit and let us know what you see. (They're in SCRAPBOOK --> CLASSES --> 61.)

Everybody... if you've got the patience for it, have a look at "view source" and see whether you can spot the mistake. *I* surely can't, although I'll look some more later this morning.

Thanks!

--Bob '65

Date: Sun, 24 Mar 96 11:59:31 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: '61 Index Page Outstubborned!

... I think.

I just installed Netscape Navigator 2.01. The page looked OK... not scrambled or overwritten, but the hyperlink to Dr. Kirby's page and the text after it up to the next

were missing. A clue! Sure enough, I'd left out a double-quote in the hyperlink. I fixed it about 15 minutes ago.

Could someone with Netscape 2.0 please have a look to confiirm that the missing double-quote was the only problem? Thanks!

--Bob '65

From: Walt Egenmaier
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 23:05:44 -0500
Subject: Announcing the Baker High Lions Digest

Welcome to a new feature, the Baker High Digest. The digest allows you to condense all messages received on any given day to a single message. If no message is sent that day, you won't get a message. If 12 messages are sent on a given day, you will get a single message with all 12 messages contained therein.

To subscribe to the digest, make your request to Majordomo@Baker.HS.org: and send the following command:

subscribe lions-digest (your email address goes here). For example:

subscribe lions-digest JohnDoe@aol.com

Good luck and hopefully this may make it easier for those people with high email traffic.

Walt Egenmaier ('71)

Date: Mon, 25 Mar 96 11:49:26 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Re: Announcing the Baker High Lions Digest

Walt, thanks for the work on the Lions-Digest!

Note that to use the digest effectively, you'll have to UNSUBSCRIBE from Lions-L, or you'll wind up getting two copies of each message.

Address a message to Lions-L-Request@Baker.HS.org and put the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the _body_ of the message. Probably you don't want to do this until you've received the first Lions-Digest message.

The Lions-Digest is prepared at about 4:00 AM Eastern, and contains all messages for the previous 24 hours. Read it with your morning coffee!

--Bob

Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:31:07 -0800
From: Wilson C. GrierOrganization: Morehead State University
Subject: Netscape 2.0 Review of Class of '61

Bob:

I have just finished looking through 1961 with 2.0. Any problems you had, have been corrected. I think the way you've done it is outstanding. If it's quick in comparison to any other known means...go for it. I am using the email button in Class of '61 folder and netscape to send this.

Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:23:13 -1000
From: Sandra Robertson
Subject: Re: '61 Index Page Outstubborned!

Bob Brown wrote:

>
> ... I think.
>
> I just installed Netscape Navigator 2.01. The page looked OK... not
> scrambled or overwritten, but the hyperlink to Dr. Kirby's page and
> the text after it up to the next

were missing. A clue! Sure
> enough, I'd left out a double-quote in the hyperlink. I fixed it
> about 15 minutes ago.
>
> Could someone with Netscape 2.0 please have a look to confiirm that
> the missing double-quote was the only problem? Thanks!
>
> --Bob '65
The class of '61 looks fine, now on Netscape 2.0.
Thanks, Sandra

Date: Mon, 25 Mar 96 21:38:14 UT
From: PeteYoung
Subject: RE: Oscar Boyles ( To Sandye Smith )

Wow! All the reveling in the mem0ohries of Oscar P.! Does anyone remember the routed paddle with his name on it. Ouch after ouch! Are sure you want to leave that blue book in your shorts,son? Ok, assume the position! Newt was right what a gift to enough concern to risk the way they did day after day. I certainly support any effort to thank each of them, By the way does anyone know of the whereabout of Guy Bongiovanni(62) and George Langworth (63)? Last I heard Guy was a photog. in India and George was in NY City? Pete Young.

From: Sandye Smith
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 1996 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Oscar Boyles ( To Sandye Smith )

He is very much around here. He lives in Smiths, Alabama and is the Headmaster at Lyman Ward Boys School. He generally comes to all of our reunions so if you make it in October you should get to see him again.

Boy will that bring back memories for you!!!!!!

Sandye

> I moved away from there in 1963, are you saying that Mr. Boyles is still
>around there ( Or even alive )? He used that paddle on my butt more than
>once. It almost became a weekly ritual. Maybe that's what some of today's
>kids need.
>
> New subject, does anyone remember the ' Teen Tones ' ?
>
> Johnny '65

From: Glenn Wells
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:46:24 -0500
Subject: Re: Baker Monument?

I remember the monument as being on the ground near the southwest corner of the auditorium. I was sort of an afterthought cornerstone. I'm sure the first date was 1943; that's when I've been told the school was founded. I drove by there last week, but didn't see it. I flipped through my annuals, but couldn't find a photo of it. Unfortunately many of the pages are stuck together from water damage; they were in the annual office in the back of the auditorium when it burned on March 31, 1971.

Glenn Wells, Class of '60, Faculty 1966-71

Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:42:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Al Sciarrino
Subject: Re: Baker Monument?

I have a picture of the monument, which I can send. It was in front of the school until two years ago. I saw it one evening, and the next it was gone. To where? Who knows. Perhaps it is being kept by the public school administrationtion somewhere. I'll send the picture to Sandye.

Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 18:45:05 -0500
From: Sandye Smith
Subject: Re: Baker Monument?

Al,

Thanks. I will scan it for Bob and get it back to you in one piece.

Sandye

>I have a picture of the monument, which I can send. It was in front of the
>school until two years ago. I saw it one evening, and the next it was gone.
>To where? Who knows. Perhaps it is being kept by the public school
>administrationtion somewhere. I'll send the picture to Sandye.
>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 18:50:29 -0500 From: Sandye Smith

Okay, everybody, particularly the guys.

I spoke at length this evening with Mr. Boyles. He said I made his day by calling because he always liked to hear from his "kids".

He has now retired from Lyman Ward and says he is having a ball being retired. He doesn't remember exactly when the lower grades were moved from Baker but is going to check and call me back in a day or two.

Some messages and remembrances....

Bob Brown - Oscar said to tell you he quit smoking so you couldn't kill him as you once promised.

Johnny Joiner - Oscar said you spent more time in his office than he did.

Others (but no names)- Guy who convinced him to buy a laser for the science fair and then blew it up at the State meet.

Another guy who did an experiment with egg embryos and caused them to develop cancer.

Anybody want to 'fess up???

Oscar also said to tell all the computer geniuses out there that he is envious because he is computer illiterate.

Will let you know when I hear further from him.

He was very touched that so many of us remembered him. He said we were really good kids and he loved being with us.

Sandye

Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 23:57:24 -0500
From: Jeanne Sweeney
Subject: Sande's phone call

Thanks Sande, for calling Mr. Boyles. I think there is someone very close to a keyboard that could talk a bit more about the laser.

Great stories and great work on this project!

Jeannie

At 06:50 PM 3/26/96 -0500, you wrote:

>Okay, everybody, particularly the guys.
>
>I spoke at length this evening with Mr. Boyles. He said I made his day by
>calling because he always liked to hear from his "kids".
>
>He has now retired from Lyman Ward and says he is having a ball being
>retired. He doesn't remember exactly when the lower grades were moved from
>Baker but is going to check and call me back in a day or two.
>
>Some messages and remembrances....
>
>Bob Brown - Oscar said to tell you he quit smoking so you couldn't kill him
>as you once promised.
>
>Johnny Joiner - Oscar said you spent more time in his office than he did.
>
>Others (but no names)- Guy who convinced him to buy a laser for the science
>fair and then blew it up at the State meet.
>
>Another guy who did an experiment with egg embryos and caused them to
>develop cancer.
>
>Anybody want to 'fess up???
>
>Oscar also said to tell all the computer geniuses out there that he is
>envious because he is computer illiterate.
>
>Will let you know when I hear further from him.
>
>He was very touched that so many of us remembered him. He said we were
>really good kids and he loved being with us.
>
>Sandye
>
Jeannie Sweeney

Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 08:34:56 -0600 (MDT)
From: Katherine (Omelanuk) Agar
Subject: laser

Re: Oscar P.'s reminiscences

Surely that was Bob Brown who ordered the laser--and did you get permission to order before of AFTER it was ordered??????? This is an important piece of Baker 60's mythology.

Kathy (Omelanuk) Agar

Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 11:34:49 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Re: laser

>surely that was Bob Brown

Yup, that was me. The Student Council paid for the ruby rod, and I bought or scrounged the rest of the parts. It didn't *exactly* blow up, but a neon indicator light failed, ahhh, noisily.

I *think* I did the ordering and permission-getting in the right order.

I also don't think I threatened to kill him over smoking. In fact, I don't think I knew he was a smoker. I can't recall any of the faculty smoking at school, and both of my parents were smokers, so it wouldn't have seemed like a big deal to me anyway.

If it wasn't me, it must have been someone else. I wonder who...

--Bob '65

Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 14:36:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Al Sciarrino
Subject: Re: laser

Re: Oscar P.'s reminiscences

He once asked me why I had Delos Anderson jump into my fight with a guy twice my size. I told him it was obvious. He paddled my butt good!!!!!!!!

Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 18:34:25 -0500
From: Sandye Smith

Mr. Boyles called me today and told me that kindergarten through 6th grades were moved from Baker at the end of the 1958-1959 school year.

He also informed me that Baker was named after Newton Diehl Baker who was Secretary of War 1916-1921 under President Woodrow Wilson. Newton Baker administered the U.S. war effort during the 1st World War. Mr. Boyles also told me that Baker had never been dedicated until after he became principal and he (Mr. Boyles) had a dedication ceremony. He is to get back with me on the dates and I will keep all of you posted.

Sandye

Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:41:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Patrick F. McKibbins
Subject: Re: Dave Simmons

On Sat, 23 Mar 1996, Bob Brown wrote:

> Messages from the list to Dave are being returned with errors which
> suggest right.net is no more. Does anyone have an alternate address
> for Dave?
> --Bob '65

The ISP Dave is currently using has been down for a time because of hardware failures. I can forward any messages to Dave if needed.

Patrick McKibbins
'85

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 10:13:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Re[2]: '61 Index Page

In a message dated 96-03-22 14:23:28 EST, Wilson Grier wrote:

>I would support anything that we can organize for Oscar P. I don't think
>anyone had more time bent over his desk than I did as a freshman. How
>he could remember the names of 3000 kids at one time, I'll never know.
>Just making the commitment to know them by the second week is demanding.p I remember transfering in mid-Fall of '62. Osar P. greeted me by name as I walked to my 2nd class. Absolutely blew my mind.

We had a "Big Fred Day" for Dr. Kirby - we really do need to do something special for Oscar P.

In a message dated 96-03-27 10:32:31 EST, Kathy (Omelanuk) Agar wrote:

>Surely that was Bob Brown who ordered the laser--and did you get >permission
to order before of AFTER it was ordered??????? This
>is an important piece of Baker 60's mythology.
>
>Kathy (Omelanuk) Agar

In a message dated 96-03-27 12:06:51 EST, Bob Brown wrote:

>Yup, that was me. The Student Council paid for the ruby rod, and I
>bought or scrounged the rest of the parts. It didn't *exactly* blow
>up, but a neon indicator light failed, ahhh, noisily.
>
>I *think* I did the ordering and permission-getting in the right
>order.

Bob, one of us has anedited memory! I specifiacally remember a conversation with you after the laser arrived and before you had the go ahead to use school funds to pay for it. Yoiu were going to hit Dr. Kirby up for the money. I remember more being surprised that a high school kid could build a laser than I was that one of us could/would pull a stunt like that. (Yes, I too had a copy of Bob's infamous master key to Baker.)

In a message dated 96-03-24 05:36:05 EST, Bob Brown wrote:

>Sandra (or somebody else with 2.0)... could you please use the
>"reload" button after going to the '61 page to be absolutely sure
>you're looking at the current version and not one saved on your local
>disk? Then poke at the '61 annual pages a bit and let us know what
>you see. (They're in SCRAPBOOK --> CLASSES --> 61.)

Bob - Everything including annual pages from '61 looked great with Nescape 2.0 and AOL browser when I looked last week. Just got back in town and haven't looked at any recent changes. BTW no Baker wallpaper and no notebook spirals with AOL.

Mike '64

Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 11:32:18 -0500
From: Sandye Smith

Mike,

I am open to any suggestions of what we might do for Oscar P. Course if you were coming to our next reunion you could see Oscar personally. By the way, Dick says you are avoiding him by already saying you couldn't come to next reunion.

Sandye

Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 12:02:06 -0600 (MDT)
From: Katherine (Omelanuk) Agar
Subject: reunions

Does anyone know if there are plans for a 30th class of '66 reunion this year?

And Debbie V., I think I forgot to tell you thanks for the photo you sent. It's great to see your family. I'm trying to find something to send you, but I don't seem to have any recent shots of me AND the kids.

Mike, did you get anything this Christmas that might do?

Kathy (Omelanuk) Agar

Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:11:32 -0500
From: Sandye Smith
Subject: Re: reunions

>Does anyone know if there are plans for a 30th class of '66 reunion this year?
>
>Kathy (Omelanuk) Agar
>
>Kathy

I just got in from a 64 committee meeting and one of the girls attending mentioned that the 66 class is having a reunion in August. They are usually listed in Tuesday's newspaper so I will be certain to check it for you and let you know who to contact.

Sandye 64

Date: Sat, 30 Mar 96 16:47:46 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Re: Reunsions

Joann Hart Cotty is likely to know what the Class of '66 has planned.

From: Steve Whitelaw
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 19:15:24 -0500
Subject: Re: reunions

Hi everybody, hope all is well for the class of '66, Sandye, please let me know if our class is indeed having a reunion. I haven't been able to make any in the past. Does anybody know what happened to the following guys, Bobby Burton, Walter Cook and Ted Clawson, also does anyone remember Tammy Davis, she would have graduated in ' ' 67. I get the mail every day and enjoy whats going on. I had the pleasure of recieving a Big O greeting, one was enough. Bob Brown, how is Lance doing, isnt he your younger brother?
Steve Whitelaw '66

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 01:58:12 -0500
Subject: Re: No Subject

In a message dated 96-03-30 11:47:28 EST, you write:

>By the way, Dick says you are avoiding him by already saying you >couldn't come to next reunion.

It's all his fault. If he hadn't called, the kids wouldn't have gone to 7-11 for a slurpy, wouldn't have gotten engaged, and i wouldn't have to use up my vacation for a wedding in Florida! Besides, I did say I'd try to stop by and see some of ya'll on the way down or back.

Now, if the above isn't worthy of the Class of '64, I don't know what is. In a message dated 96-03-30 13:55:49 EST, Kathy Agar wrote:

>Mike, did you get anything this Christmas that might do?

> I'll check. I think most of the pictures were opening presents and I can't remember if we were in pajamas or what.

Mike '64

Date: Sun, 31 Mar 96 13:40:58 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Reunions

Something that's worked well at Emory, but which I haven't seen any Baker Lions try, is combined reunions. You get, say '46, '56, '66, '76, and '86 all together. There are separate tables designated by year, with the number of tables for each year reflective of the number of registrations, so you can find your classmates, but you also get economies of scale and get to meet Lions of other decades.

I think we have all five of those years represented on this list. You Class of 'X6-ers, what do you think of that? (It may be too late to do in 1996, depending upon how far along the Class of '66 is with their plans.)

(Ummm... I'm also thinking we need to do a *giant*, everyone-invited reunion the summer of the year 2000, but we have a (small) while before that needs to be planned.)

--Bob '65

Date: Sun, 31 Mar 96 13:40:39 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Honoring Mr. Boyles

How about a dinner the day before or after one of the reunions. If, say, the '66 reunion is on a Saturday, how 'bout a dinner on Friday or Sunday evening?

I'm thinking someplace that'll let us do a cash bar before dinner, maybe with hors d'oeurves (is there any chance I spelled that right?) and a sit-down dinner, tickets $25-$50. I'd come to Columbus for that even if it wasn't my reunion year.

I can't think of anything less expensive that'd be suitable "honorific."

--Bob

Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 14:53:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Al Sciarrino
Subject: Re: Reunions

Bob,

I'm not sure I'd care to be at the same reunion as the class of '74, '84 and '94, (not a whole lot in common) but I'd sure like to be at a reunion of all 1960's classes!!!!!!!!!! We all had friends from before and after our particular class.

Al '64

Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 14:58:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Al Sciarrino
Subject: Re: Honoring Mr. Boyles

Bob,

That's a great idea. Especially for those of us who travel far. I usually come down for a few days, with nothing really to do except go to the reunion. I've actually felt lonely in Columbus before! Maybe it was me...or maybe there need to be more to do. Also, for out of towners, it is crucial that we all stay at the same hotel or motel. At the 20th we did, and it was great to get together the day before and after the reunion date. At the 25th, I was all alone at some motel and couldn't find anyone until the next day!!!! At the 30th, I stayed with Dick Stewart. But, we couldn't find anyone. Who knows, one of our classmates may have shown up on a friday night, and not finding anyone, left for home. Or maybe it is me (us). In any event, it would be good to choose a specific hotel, and offer out of towners the chance to stay together. I'd even promise not to chase any skirts!!!!!!!!!!!

Honoring Mr. Boyles is a great idea. Can we paddle him now? Al '64

Date: Sun, 31 Mar 96 15:26:17 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Re: Reunions

>with classes of '74, '84, and '94...
>Well, you're safe from the class of '94 because there wasn't one.

My experience is that mostly you mingle with your own, but you get the economies of scale of having more people there... one band, one hall rental, etc. It's interesting to meet older and younger alumni, but you're right, there isn't much to say to them except "How'do?"

I'm still thinking of a giant Grand Reunion (if I can steal a phrase from the Overseas Brats) in the summer of 2000, with *everyone* invited. Maybe tables could be set up by decade instead of year or something.

--Bob '65

Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 16:07:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Al Sciarrino
Subject: Re: Reunions

Just happen to be on all day!!!!!! Well, just my thoughts. But whatever, it sounds like a great idea. The 2000 celebration is also something that must be planned from right now! Big job, Bob. Just let me know how you can use me from up here in New York State. For those who care, I'm south of Rochester, and 60 miles east of Buffalo. The sun finally has begun to shine!!!!!!!! Al "64

Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 16:38:47 -0500
From: Sandye Smith
Subject: Re: Honoring Mr. Boyles

>Al,
> I've actually felt lonely in Columbus before! At the
>25th, I was all alone at some motel and couldn't find anyone until the next
>day!!!!

At the 30th, I stayed with Dick Stewart. But, we couldn't find
>anyone. I'd even promise not to chase any
>skirts!!!!!!!!!!!
> Honoring Mr. Boyles is a great idea. Can we paddle him now?
> Al '64
>I was going to keep my mouth shut but I can't pass this one up.

l. If you felt lonely it was your own fault. All you had to do was call me because I have the addresses and phone numbers for all located classmates.

2. At the 30th you got here two days after you were supposed to.

3. I don't believe that.

Anyway, while we are tossing out ideas, the 64 class is planning a get together October 11 and 12, l996. Anyone out there who would like to come, let me know and I will get the info to you when it is finalized.

Sandye

> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 96 23:53:24 UT
From: PeteYoung
Subject: RE: Reunions

Since I never had any contact with the school until I found the homepage I do not even know if '62 or '63 have had a reunion? Anyway, I sure support any thing to get back together with some of those people. And yeah, we all had friends in classes above and below us to. Think about this; If the event is to be for Mr. Boyles, why not invite anyone who went to school while he was there. Big range, but only the really committed people will come anyway. Pete'63

From: Al Sciarrino
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 1996 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: Reunions

Bob,

I'm not sure I'd care to be at the same reunion as the class of '74, '84 and '94, (not a whole lot in common) but I'd sure like to be at a reunion of all 1960's classes!!!!!!!!!! We all had friends from before and after our particular class.

Al '64

Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:38:41 -0600 (MDT)
From: Katherine (Omelanuk) Agar
Subject: reunions

I'm for a big 60's reunion. I've never been to a '66 reunion, but I went to the '65 reunion once with Bob Blaney and I knew as many people in that class as I did in my own. As for Oscar P. day, why not go for everybody? I agree that only dedicated folks will come. I hope more reunions/events will be scheduled for summer. Something like and October day is virtually undoable for those of us out of state on an academic shcedule. We just can't get off then. And I'll bet we have plenty of academics. And I remember you, Steve Whitelaw.

Kathy Omelanuk Agar

MRO