Lions-L Discussion List - February, 1996

Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 23:53:25 -0600
From: Don Stauffer
Subject: My Mailer

Sorry if my last message looked garbled on anyone's mail reader. I guess Eudora was doing funny things with it. Hopefully that has been fixed thanks to the wonders of setup options. :)

Don '85

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 01:49:45 -0500
Subject: Duh!

Heard from Newt Gingrich's computer today. Looks like a standard propaganda repy. I expect it will be a few days before a human reads his E-mail. Bet he has a private E-mail address for important stuff.

Bob - While I was working on stripping the headers of January's mail I re-read your comment: "I feel like Calvin. And/or Hobbes. Let's go exploring!" You know, now that the strip is defunct, Calvin and Hobbes are perfect honorary mascots for our defunct school. I so move (all in favor signify by signing up for a game of Calvin ball.)

BTW - I've been stripping headers for a while now and decided to see how far I have to go. I am on page 13 (after the headers are gone) and there are a total of 62 unstripped left. Must have been close to 100 pages of text when I started. Prolific little devils aren't we?!

In a message dated 96-01-31 09:28:07 EST, Don '85. wrote:

>Dilbert is my favorite comic. There hasn't been a joke I haven't gotten.

So have you become one of Dogbert's elite ruling class or are you just being in-duh-vi-dual?

Mike '64

Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 07:05:35 -0600
To: lions-l@Baker.HS.ORG
From: Don Stauffer
Subject: Re: Duh!

>>Dilbert is my favorite comic. There hasn't been a joke I
>haven't gotten.
>
>So have you become one of Dogbert's elite ruling class or are you just being
>in-duh-vi-dual?
>
>Mike '64
>

I'm what Dogbert would call an aspiring UNIX Guru. Someone that is respected by everyone but really doesn't know all that much and definitely does even less. :)

Don '85

From: Sandye Johnson Smith
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:42:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Duh!

Jeanne: I have done some looking around and have found three Community Areas that will do a spot for Baker on the Net. I also have their fax numbers so you can do it from home. WRBL, Attention Darlene Hughes 706-327-6655, WTVM, Attention Chuck Leonard 706-327-0179 and WRCG 706-596-4600.

I hope this helps.

Sandye 64

Date: Thu, 1 Feb 96 18:19 EST
From: David Simmons
Subject: Re: Duh!

>
>>>Dilbert is my favorite comic. There hasn't been a joke I
>>haven't gotten.
>>
>>So have you become one of Dogbert's elite ruling class or are you just being
>>in-duh-vi-dual?
>>
>>Mike '64
>>
>
>I'm what Dogbert would call an aspiring UNIX Guru. Someone that is respected
>by everyone but really doesn't know all that much and definitely does even
>less. :)
>
>Don '85

Don't make me get dogbert and show you guys real code, we might go poof!. (did anyone see that particular cartoon?)
Dave ('86)

p.s. Wow, Don, you're a pretty old dude

Date: Thu, 1 Feb 96 19:35:30 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Class Lists, CGI Program, and FTP

Dave! Good going on the scanning. If you have each page in one giant file, send a page to me at ftp.Baker.HS.org/incoming and I'll see what I can do with it. How 'bout using the page with your picture as a test?

Don and Dave, if either (both!) of you want to look at the MIT program, there's a copy on ftp.Baker.HS.org/pub/mit-dcns-cgi950822.tar

Everybody, Baker now has an FTP server. For those new to the Internet, FTP is File Transfer Protocol. It's another way of transferring files among Internet-connected comptuers. Because the FTP server is accessible to anyone, jsut like our Web page, it isn't the right place for things like class telephone and address lists, but it's much better than e-mail filr things like scanned pictures for those who can use it.

--Bob '65

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:59:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Class Lists, CGI Program, and FTP

In a message dated 96-02-01 19:50:22 EST, Bob wrote:

B>Everybody, Baker now has an FTP server. For those new to the
B>Internet, FTP is File Transfer Protocol. It's another way of
B>transferring files among Internet-connected comptuers.

Bob - When I get January stripped, I'll zip up two text files and try to FTP to you. One will be a hyper text file for the page and one will be plain text so folks will be able to FTP if they want. Will strip addresses, phone numbers, etc out of both versions.

Dave Simmons, Don Stauffer, et al - Looks like I am the only one to have discovered the Scott Adams/Dilbert Home Page. You can tume in on AOl by using Keyword "Dilbert" which (in addition to being a Page) is linked to a WEB Home Page. There you can subscribe to the Dilbert Newsletter and find out about In-Duh-vi-du-als. WEB address is

http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert.

You can also download Dilbert strips if GIF and JPEG format.

In a message dated 96-02-01 11:40:43 EST, Deborah Valentine wrote:

D>Your sense of humor shines through your messages. Wish I had that gift!

Thanks for the kind words. Most friends, and certainly my family, think I'm warped.

D>At the risk of cloggingup cyberspace, please forward Newt's propaganda. I'm definitely not a Newt nut, but I like to keep up with what he's putting out.

ok - HOLD ON, heeeeers Newt! (or a least his 'puter):

Subj: WELCOME TO THE CONSTITUENT ELECTRONIC MAIL SERVICE
Date: 96-01-31 00:46:56 EST
From: GEORGIA6@HR.HOUSE.GOV (GA06.GINGRICH)
Reply-to: GEORGIA6@HR.HOUSE.GOV
Thank you for contacting me through the House of Representatives' Constituent Electronic Mail System (CEMS). I am pleased to be a part of this effort to offer citizens a quick and efficient way to communicate with their representatives in Congress.

As the ability of Congress to communicate and share information over the Internet is expanded, I expect that program enhancements will be announced and additional members will choose to participate. Your patience during these early stages of the CEMS is greatly appreciated. You can learn more about the CEMS through the Internet address CONGRESS@HR.HOUSE.GOV.

If you live in my Congressional District, please be assured that any message you send me over the Internet will be brought to my attention. Be sure to include your mailing address in your Internet message. Thank you again for your interest.

Sincerely,

NEWT GINGRICH

MEMBER OF CONGRESS

Are we impressed yet?

Adios - Mike '64

Date: Thu, 1 Feb 96 22:26:05 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Lysdexia

I wrote: >comptuers... jsut... filr...

Uncle! I left my reading glasses at home, OK? (grin)

'Tis sad, but true. My left hand often gets ahead of my right hand when typing, and with the wrong specs, I can't see the errors. Sigh.

--Bob '65

Date: Fri, 2 Feb 96 12:04 EST
From: David Simmons
Subject: Re: Class Lists, CGI Program, and FTP

>Dave Simmons, Don Stauffer, et al - Looks like I am the only one to have
>discovered the Scott Adams/Dilbert Home Page. You can tume in on AOl by
>using Keyword "Dilbert" which (in addition to being a Page) is linked to a
>WEB Home Page. There you can subscribe to the Dilbert Newsletter and find
>out about In-Duh-vi-du-als. WEB address is
>http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert. You can also download Dilbert
>strips if GIF and JPEG format.

Found it a late last year. I even have a download directory for the jpegs. We are constantly passing them around the office dubbing co-workers names over the cartoon. I haven't been to the Dogbert store yet.

ds

From: C. Rolf Milton
Subject: RE: I made it
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 20:04:47 -0900

Welcome to the Baker HS site, have fun!

Rolf (Baker '67)

From: Michele Forinash
Sent: Friday, January 26, 1996 11:34 AM
Subject: I made it

Michele Forinash (Aziz) class of 1974. Any other 74 grads out there? I live in Mass. now, quite a bit colder than I enjoy, but I'm getting used to it. I attended my 20 year reunion in the summer of 94 and had quite a good time reconnecting with people. Hopefully this will also be a good way to refind old friends.

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 01:52:00 -0500
Subject: Edit the Instructions

I volunteered to help with updating/editing the mail list instructions. Any suggestios, please let me know.

i aasume from prior notes that I do not need to send the Class history Lion's Roar. How abot thge '65 April Fool's edition Kathy mentioned?

Still need me to find a scanner?

Again - let me know on any needs.

Mike '64

From: Sandye Johnson Smith
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 18:34:26 -0500
Subject: Re: Edit the Instructions

Mike, Do you have a copy of our graduation announcement? If not, I can scan it and upload it to you to add to your info. Let me know what you need and I will try to handle it. By the way, Dick Stewart says "Hi" and yes he is still speaking to you.

Sandye

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 01:50:50 -0500
Subject: Announcement

Sandye - Don't know if I have a copy of the announcement, will have to look. What did I commit to that I will need it for? I did find a copy of the Columbus paper with our class pictures in it and a clipping with several of the "safety committe" "inspecting" a car. Me, Ed Schumacher, My sister Kathy and a couple of others as I recall. Any iterest any one?

Bob - I looked at the January summary and there are a couple of mistakes. Got to fix them and upload again. (left out a couple of and the last half is all bold. Not bad for my first attempt though.

Mike '64

Date: Tue, 6 Feb 96 09:22:17 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Graduation Announcement

What a good idea! If you scan it, please send me a copy for the web page, too. Other classes, take note!
--Bob '65

Date: Thu, 8 Feb 96 22:47:18 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Why Is This Page Black?

Other web sites throughout the Internet are using a black background on their pages to call attention to the fact that Congress passed and President Clinton signed a bill that abridges First Amendment rights of electronic publications.

I think the Baker page should be black for a couple of days. Opinions? Advice?

--Bob Brown '65

From: G Gray
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 23:32:34 -0500
Subject: Answer to "Why Is This Page Black?"

I agree with Bob Brown. The Baker Page should be black for a couple of days. We must stand up for our First Amendment rights!

Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 07:35:59 -0500
From: William M Logan Jr
Subject: Re: Why Is This Page Black?

Bob Brown wrote:

>
> Other web sites throughout the Internet are using a black background
> on their pages to call attention to the fact that Congress passed and
> President Clinton signed a bill that abridges First Amendment rights
> of electronic publications.
>
> I think the Baker page should be black for a couple of days.
> Opinions? Advice?
> --Bob Brown '65

It' another great day in history...we have laws to protect women from rape, we have laws to protect us from robbery, car theft, gun control,and a multitude of other henis crimes, and now we have a law that will eventually limit what I can put on my home. What a great day for the victims. The politicans have really got on the band wagon. Maybe they are afraid of the truth themselves.

Have a wonderful day, I'm going black.

Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 08:45:04 -0500 (EST)
From: WILSON C GRIER
Subject: Re: Why Is This Page Black?

Bob:

I support having the background for the homepage black for a week or so. It is truly small minded of the elected political community to take the position that knowledge is not in the best interest of American society. Personally, I don't think they will win on this issue in the long run. We need to be willing to keep pointing it out to them.

Wilson

From: Walt Egenmaier
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 09:14:46 -0500

>Baker page should be black for a couple of days.
>Opinions? Advice?

Go black for a week. Then when the time is right, vote in a whole new Congress and President. I doubt that the framers of our Constitution ever invisioned that people serving their country would make it a profession. Term limits are placed in the voters hands...and we have failed. Our last local elections only had about 30% turn out. Pitiful.

Walt ('71)

Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 09:19:27 -0600
From: Don Stauffer
Subject: Re: Why Is This Page Black?

>Other web sites throughout the Internet are using a black background
>on their pages to call attention to the fact that Congress passed and
>President Clinton signed a bill that abridges First Amendment rights
>of electronic publications.
>
>I think the Baker page should be black for a couple of days.
>Opinions? Advice?
> --Bob Brown '65

Congress has passed boneheaded things in the past, prohibition being a good example. Those elements on the net who inspired the CDA will go into stealth mode and continue doing what they always have and the other 99.7% of us will have to pay for the acts of those few.

I can see the next move now. In the advent of many sites migrating to other countries, there will be a new bill introduced to sever links outside of the United States.

Make the background black and never forget that the internet is strong enough to be a demographic all of its own in the polls.

Don Stauffer

Date: Fri, 9 Feb 96 11:05:09 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Why This Page is Black.

Since we seem to be unanimous, I've turned the Baker page black and added a link to info from Yahoo and Voters' Telecommunications Watch. I'll put it back the way it was early next week.

--Bob '65

Date: Fri, 9 Feb 96 11:05:49 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Index Listings

You may remember that Yahoo indexed our page within a few hours after we told them about us. I sent info to the other big index servers, too, but nothing seemed to happen.
Well, now it has! The Baker page is indexed in Alta Vista, Lycos, and Web Crawler. You can find us by searching for "Columbus Georgia" in all the big indexes now. This ought to help other Lions find the Baker page.

--Bob '65

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 14:00:25 -0500

dated 96-02-08 23:09:21 EST, Bob wrote:

>I think the Baker page should be black for a couple of days.
>Opinions? Advice?
> --Bob Brown '65

Just do it! - Mike '64

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 14:00:32 -0500
Subject: The Great Alumn Hunt

I was killing time this morning, waiting for the sun to come up (yep, it's true, you start getting a lot less sleep when you get older.) Any how, I plugged into a home page for the DOD Dependent School System. There are LOTS of high school home pages out there for us Brats!

I could have browsed this all day. You can tell that I was mostly interested in Germany, but there are listings for HSs all over the world. Some of the key addresses I found are:

DODS Alumni Center http://192.253.114.31/DoDDS/Alumni/Alumni_home.html

Alumni Contacts http://www.vni.net/~mcl/osb/osbemlct.htm

Overseas Brats Home Page http://www.vni.net/~mcl/osb/osbmain.htm

Augsburg HS Alum E-mail MCCummins@AOL.com

Baumholder HS ttp://www.primenet.com/~quack/schools/Baumholder.html

Bittburg HS http://users.aol.com/silvranblk/bitburg.html

Frankfurt HS http://www.vni.net/~mcl/fhs/fhs.htm

Karlsruhe HS http://www.dtx.net/~cbart/kahs.html

Munich HS http://www.augusta.net/rmunich/munich.htm

Munich Alum E-mail MUNICHAHS@AOL.com

Stuttgart (Patch) High School http://192.253.114.31/Home.html

Wiesbaden HS http://www.compassnet.com/~glenn/haha.html

You Know You Are A Military Brat If You: http://www.vni.net/~mcl/osb/bratif.htm

Combined Mititary Overseas HS Grand Reunion E-mail address: GRAND96@aol.com

Bob, it would be great to have some links to these pages. BTW, I cleaned up the edit problems for the Lions-L January summary. I will upload it to you direct.

Mike '64

Date: Sun, 11 Feb 96 03:50:37 UT
From: PeteYoung
Subject: RE:

Do it, Pete

Date: Sat, 10 Feb 96 22:35:41 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Whew!

Well, I'm about half finished grading my first midterm. I've been through all the papers twice. First I checked off the obviously correct answers on all the papers and read everything else, taking notes on patterns of errors. Then I went through again and assigned points, but marked on a worksheet instead of the test papers.

I've tabulated the scores and identified the numerically troublesome questions. Next I gotta write detailed scoring rules for the bad'uns to be sure I grade them uniformly, *then* I can go mark grades on papers.

The test was too long, and right on the edge of being too hard, but it's not as bad as I'd feared. (I was in a panic that I'd flunked everyone at first glance through them.)

It sure was a lot of work, though. I'm not sure how people who teach for a living do it. (Er, hi, Mr. Hardy!)

--Bob '65

Date: Sat, 10 Feb 96 23:01:46 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: OSB Links and other Stuff

Mike, thanks for the OSB link info. Yeah, we need to add it. There's already an "other interesting stuff" section in the scrapbook, and they'll fit well there. I'll try to do that tomorrow. (That kind of thing is easier to do from work than from home because I have better access to the Net. I can futz with things from one keyboard and test with another.)

I'm still way behind with registrations and getting "non-routine" material on the web, but I've gotten *good* with name lists! More names... send more names!

I'll try to spend a coupl'a hours tomorrow on this stuff. (After the midterm's finished!) The web pages are beginning to take on a defined shape, but there's enough new stuff each week to keep people coming back. I hope. We're still doing mostly easy stuff... mainly class indexes, but we find a few new people each week, so by the time the easy parts play out we should have enough folks around to take on the harder work.

--Bob '65

From: Mike Omelanuk
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 11:01:04 -0500
Subject: The Search Goes On!

Bob - I forgot to mention that there is a Military Brat section on AOL. Subscribers can get to it by using the keyword "brats" (makes you wonder what someone would think if they were looking for information on bratwursts). I wonder if Prodigy or Compuserve have similar areas/forums. Anyone out there on either of those two services who can give it a try?

Rolf - I found you on the OSB Page. I didn't realize we reversed directions. I came to Baker from Augsburg, you did the opposite. Was coach Devona still there? I had some really great teachers there?

Mike '64

From: BrittTwo@AOL.com
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 14:13:18 -0500
Subject: BHS Reunions

The following was extracted from the Columbus Ledger-Enquirer, February 13, 1994. Thought it might be of interest to a few old Lions.

High School Reunions

Baker High School Class of 1961. Class reunion is being planned. For information, (706) 660-0339

Baker High School Class of 1986. Class reunion is being planned. Call Kellie Powell (Mahoney) (912) 649-2173, or Henry Countryman, (706) 569-9946

Britt Ware (1953)

From: C. Rolf Milton
Subject: RE: Why Is This Page Black?
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 06:42:13 -0900

Bob,

I agree that censorship sucks, but I'm not sure what purpose that will =
serve (the black page thing). Also, this is the first I've heard about =
it - interesting, though!

Rolf ('67)

From: Bob Brown
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 1996 6:47 PM
Subject: Why Is This Page Black?

Other web sites throughout the Internet are using a black background on their pages to call attention to the fact that Congress passed and President Clinton signed a bill that abridges First Amendment rights of electronic publications.

I think the Baker page should be black for a couple of days. Opinions? Advice?

--Bob Brown '65

From: C. Rolf Milton
Subject: RE: The Search Goes On!
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 06:56:44 -0900

Mike,

like all most of us I got around - and then some. Nuernberg to Columbus (Eddy Jr High first), then Augusta for a month of so, then Augsburg, and then back to the US; took a breather and ended up in SE Asia, etc. etc.

Don't recall Coach Devona. Al Bradshaw coached JV basketball; Miilton Sosnick coached varsity basketball and Robert Harris coached football - at least I think that's how it was; not sure, I suffer from CRS :-)

Rolf

From: Mike Omelanuk
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 1996 7:01 AM
Subject: The Search Goes On!

Bob - I forgot to mention that there is a Military Brat section on AOL. Subscribers can get to it by using the keyword "brats" (makes you wonder what someone would think if they were looking for information on bratwursts). I wonder if Prodigy or Compuserve have similar areas/forums. Anyone out there on either of those two services who can give it a try?

Rolf - I found you on the OSB Page. I didn't realize we reversed directions. I came to Baker from Augsburg, you did the opposite. Was coach Devona still there? I had some really great teachers there?

Mike '64

Date: Sun, 18 Feb 96 17:05:29 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Progress Report (Short)

Life has been disrupted by the need to give and grade a midterm (spent all last weekend grading) and by loss of my Web access. The latter occurred when MCI pulled out of News Corp's Internet venture and they fired all their beta testers, including yours truly.

Yes, it's true... despite the fact that I work in the same building as the Baker server, I was getting access to it through a computer in Cambridge! The end of the MCI/News Corp test caused me to get off my tail and get Web access working at work. It's still not ready for prime time, but at least I can see the web pages.

There're a few chhanges on the Baker pages. Oid Rich ('75) typed in the names for the classes of '72 and '75. I've cleaned up the scrapbook pages a bit, mucked with the logo, and started working on getting the registrations in order.

Walt Egenmaier is testing a digestified version of the Lions-L list which gathers up all the messages for a day and sends them in one e-mail over night. He'll be posting a note here when he's satisfied that it works.

Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:43:12 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: We're Linked!<

I checked the "Overseas Brats" page last night, and Baker's linked from there! Thanks to Mike Omelanuk, any military types who find the OSB page will be able to find Baker, too.

Jeannie Penny Sweeney's working on getting us a link on Georgia College's "schools in Georgia" list, too.

Also, the AltaVista indexer has discovered the class pages. That means that people searching AltaVista for their own names (a popular passtime, I'm told) will find the Baker web site. So far, it looks like only faculty, '53, '64, and '65 are indexed. That makes sense because those were the first classes we had. The AltaVista robot visits our Web page a couple of times each week, so I'd expect the other classes to start appearing within a few weeks.

This is all coming together *much* faster than I had expected!

Date: Fri, 23 Feb 96 01:00:27 UT
From: PeteYoung
Subject: RE: We're Linked!

Bob, Check out the link to Baker through georgia-online.com.Click on the image map of Georgia to Columbus, even though the chamber of commerce hasn't done much yet, I thought the link might help.By the way we're looking for good HTML and graphics people who need some extra $ part-time. Pete Young

From: Bob Brown
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 1996 9:43 AM
Subject: We're Linked!

I checked the "Overseas Brats" page last night, and Baker's linked from there! Thanks to Mike Omelanuk, any military types who find the OSB page will be able to find Baker, too.

Jeannie Penny Sweeney's working on getting us a link on Georgia College's "schools in Georgia" list, too.

Also, the AltaVista indexer has discovered the class pages. That means that people searching AltaVista for their own names (a popular passtime, I'm told) will find the Baker web site. So far, it looks like only faculty, '53, '64, and '65 are indexed. That makes sense because those were the first classes we had. The AltaVista robot visits our Web page a couple of times each week, so I'd expect the other classes to start appearing within a few weeks.

This is all coming together *much* faster than I had expected!

Date: Sun, 25 Feb 96 14:42:11 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Progress Report (VERY Short)

Your Webmaster has been laid up with the Non-Specific Upper Respiratory Crud. (I *love* working at a hospital so I can use those technical terms!) As a result, only the bare minimum of system administration (namely backups) has been done.

Since I was stuck at home with nothing else to do, I finished scanning the Class of '65 and put "annual logos" on the '62 and '63 People pages. I'm particularly pleased with the way '62 came out as it captures the essence of the annual cover without taking up a lot of space.

Although the '65 pictures are done, they aren't properly linked, so you'll get a ? image instead of the real thing. Since I have to go in to work anyway because of a problem, I'll try to get some of them linked, but expect problems with names beginning with P and after. Also, there will be some cleaning up to do after the linking; checking for missing or mis-matched pictures, etc. (Volunteers?)

Next week *has* to be a better week. Doesn't it!?! Geez, I hope so! Date: Mon, 26 Feb 96 03:41:26 UT
From: PeteYoung
Subject: RE: Progress Report (VERY Short)

Bob, Thanks for all you do! Hope you feel better soon. Pete

From: Bob Brown
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 1996 2:42 PM
Subject: Progress Report (VERY Short)

Your Webmaster has been laid up with the Non-Specific Upper Respiratory Crud. (I *love* working at a hospital so I can use those technical terms!) As a result, only the bare minimum of system administration (namely backups) has been done.

Since I was stuck at home with nothing else to do, I finished scanning the Class of '65 and put "annual logos" on the '62 and '63 People pages. I'm particularly pleased with the way '62 came out as it captures the essence of the annual cover without taking up a lot of space.

Although the '65 pictures are done, they aren't properly linked, so you'll get a ? image instead of the real thing. Since I have to go in to work anyway because of a problem, I'll try to get some of them linked, but expect problems with names beginning with P and after. Also, there will be some cleaning up to do after the linking; checking for missing or mis-matched pictures, etc. (Volunteers?)

Next week *has* to be a better week. Doesn't it!?! Geez, I hope so!

Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:33:15 -0500 (EST)
From: WILSON C GRIER
To: PeteYoung
Subject: RE: Your request for contract employees

Pete:

The administrator of the University of Georgia system is an employee here at Morehead State. He does contract work in the areas you requested assistance. I have ask that he contact you directly for information on contract services.

Jeannie:

Did you ever get a link to the University of Georgia system? If not, I can have it done from here. Let me know.

Regards...Wilson

Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:27:47 -0500 (EST)
From: WILSON C GRIER
Cc: Michele Petry
Subject: Jobs (fwd)

Pete: You asked about individuals who want contract work...the following is at Morehead State University and is the current administrator of the University of Georgia system.

Michele: This is another individual that may be able to help with getting the Kentucky Bankers Association Homepage up and running at a minimum cost. I did get your mail about going on-line with Continuing Ed. classes via your homepage and will speak with you by phone on the issue soon. I think we can accomplish what KBA wants to do. We are already doing it here at the University via distance learning. I'm teaching DL MNGT 310 in the Fall on Sat.

Regards...Wilson

---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 12:34:44 -0500 (EST)
From: Chris Hamilton
To: Wilson Grier
Subject: Jobs
My name is Christopher Lassance-Hamilton, my email address is: deleted. I'm fairly proficient in the programming languages of: UNIX C, PERL as well as simple shell scripting.

I've done extensive work with WWW pages. I can do images, CGI programs which include automatic link updating, guestbooks, as well as access logs which include site information. I've done frames, seach engines and several other HTML 2.0 and 3.0 extensions. If you'd like to take a look at a few examples, you can point Netscape to:

My personal home page:

http://gstv.gsu.edu/~chrish

The home page for the on-line "talker" program that I run:

http://gstv.gsu.edu/vineyard/

I have lots of time on my hands, so anything that I could get where I could work at home would be greatly appreciated. If you have any other questions, feel free to email me.

Thanks,

Chris

Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:52:13 -0500 (EST)
From: WILSON C GRIER
Subject: Anti-censorship in Cyberspace and the President

I would like to request the assistance of each member of the Lions-l in distributing this information. Hopefully it will have an impact on how government sees "We the People."

Regards....Wilson C. Grier

This is not a typical chain letter, in that by passing it on to as many people as you can, you are taking part in what may yet become the world's biggest practical joke. The U.S. Government has recently passed an act which enforces censorship on the internet. A group of internet users have now come together to kick back at this oppression, and have a bit of fun at the same time.

The aim of this exercise is to re-establish the United States as "The land of the Free." Communist Russia fell as a result of such limits being placed upon the minds of the general populus. On receiving this letter, please pass it on to as many friends or E-mail lists as you can. We predict that if everybody copies the letter to 5 other addresses, by February 29th 1996, this letter should have reached in excess of 2 million people. That's when the fun begins........

On February 29th, please send the message:

Dear Mr. President,

Do you remember this:

[And afterwards enclose the pre-typed copy of the Bill of rights. By sending the letter on the date above, you will contribute to either one huge petition for freedom, or else lead to a crash of the whitehouse server.Send all letters to:]

THE BILL OF RIGHTS

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Amendment III

No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

Amendment VII

In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 96 01:35:38 UT
From: PeteYoung
Subject: RE: Warning: Anti-censorship in Cyberspace and the President's system
Sender: Owner-Lions-L@baker.hs.org

Warning! Warning! While popular and practical jokes can be intended in fun, the consequences may no fun at all. I support appropriate expressions of opinion especially in matterslike cencership, but to deliberately enter into actions intended to to damage to then integrity of systems owned by those whose policies we do not support doesn't seem be a fruitful long-ternm solution.

What if, instead we encourage the use of this technology we own to communicate with every legislator to make them aware of these positions and post them alphabetically on successive days through the month until the entire alphabetical list is sent, allowing the system to survive, but with a clearly recognizable message from the people. Also if each message is individually sent, the organizers may yet avoid or reduce the prosecutorial aspects which would surely follow such a conspiracy to deliberately sabotage and disable the system resourses of the country. ( and Hey! its a federal violation with mega penalties.) I have spent 22 years defending free speech for a living, but I hope the creators of the Baker Homepage are not going to end up being cybermeat to some federal prosecutor. This country has withstood hundreds of stupid lawyers passing thousands of stupid laws by exercising the only power an individual citizen has: a vote. Electromobbery, upon a commercial interlopper throwing stuff in our faces is one thing, but hey, Billy Boy and Hillary may be sitting on the server today,but we all still paid for it, and there are even some other issues we all need to be able to communicate to both of them. Thanks for wading through this with me and know I full respect and support what your positions are and your absolute right to say it on my part of the internet anytime! Pete Young

Date: Mon, 26 Feb 96 21:54:01 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Anti-Censorship, whitehouse.gov, etc.

I actually know a little bit about the mail system at whitehouse.gov, and I doubt such a "mailbomb" could harm it. If it begins receiving thousands of messages from AOL, it will reduce the rate at which messages from AOL are accepted. Similarly with Compuserve, etc. All the messages will eventually be delivered, but at a digestible rate. It is much more likely that the sending systems will suffer harm as thousands of messages sit in mail queues, being retried every few minutes.

I'm not exactly speaking against doing this. It isn't clear to me that thousands of people sending the same e-mail message is any different, or more harmful, than thousands of people sending the same paper mail message. I think it'll do even less good.

The same person who told me about the anti-mailbomb defenses at whitehouse.gov summed it up neatly: "no one high enough to matter will know or care. ... The worst you will do is waste the time or ruin the weekend of some underpaid civil servant."

That, I'm afraid, sums up the attitude of the current administration. Remember in November. But remember also that President Clinton didn't pass the CDA, he just signed it. There is plenty of blame to go around.

--Bob '65

Date: Tue, 27 Feb 96 17:35:57 UT
From: PeteYoung
Subject: RE: Anti-Censorship, whitehouse.gov, etc.

Amen to that Brother! Pete

From: Bob Brown
Sent: Monday, February 26, 1996 9:54 PM
Subject: Anti-Censorship, whitehouse.gov, etc.

I actually know a little bit about the mail system at whitehouse.gov, and I doubt such a "mailbomb" could harm it. If it begins receiving thousands of messages from AOL, it will reduce the rate at which messages from AOL are accepted. Similarly with Compuserve, etc. All the messages will eventually be delivered, but at a digestible rate. It is much more likely that the sending systems will suffer harm as thousands of messages sit in mail queues, being retried every few minutes.

I'm not exactly speaking against doing this. It isn't clear to me that thousands of people sending the same e-mail message is any different, or more harmful, than thousands of people sending the same paper mail message. I think it'll do even less good.

The same person who told me about the anti-mailbomb defenses at whitehouse.gov summed it up neatly: "no one high enough to matter will know or care. ... The worst you will do is waste the time or ruin the weekend of some underpaid civil servant."

That, I'm afraid, sums up the attitude of the current administration. Remember in November. But remember also that President Clinton didn't pass the CDA, he just signed it. There is plenty of blame to go around.

--Bob '65

Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:47:33 -0500 (EST)
From: WILSON C GRIER
Subject: RE: Anti-Censorship, whitehouse.gov, etc.

For all Lions-l:

The forwarding that I sent on NET censureship was created by one of the student computer groups on campus. I do not necessarily support the position advocated, but I do support their interest in seeing that someones attentioned is gained. Thanks for your reply info's.

Regards...Wilson

Date: Thu, 29 Feb 96 10:54:35 EST
From: Bob Brown
Subject: Progress on '65

Well, there's nothing like being laid up at home to generate progress! I've finished the first pass through the '65 annual, and everything that's scanned is now linked and available.

There are (about) 45 names without pictures. Some are people who didn't graduate with us; I'll be able to find pictures of some of them from earlier annuals. Some (like Lynn Valenteen) didn't get their senior picture in the annual for whatever reason. I'm sure I won't have any trouble finding a picture of Lynn! In other cases, there's name confusion. Are Karl Reynolds and Jeff Reynolds the same person? (Karl's in the list, Jeff's in the annual.) Are there two Becky Morrises? What was Christina Diamond Steven's maiden name? Was it Diamond or Stevens?

I'm pretty sure Suzanne Koon and Suzanne Coon are the same person, but which spelling is right?

Are Charles Cain and Ralph Cain the same person?

The following people are on Anne's list of people who are a part of the Class of '65, but for whom I can't find any picture at all. If anyone can help, or if some of these folks are listed by another name, please let me know.

Baker, Daniel
Blakly, Ned
Brown, Linda Sue (Goodart)
Cain, Charles
Davis, Arnold R.
Fay, Daniel
Jinks, Gerhard
Martin, Brunson
Matchette, Ralph
McInnis, Charles L.
Mercer, Larry
Miller, Michael
Newman, Rebecca Anne
Noland, Tom
Osborne, Irene Jane
Ramsey, Alexander
Shubin, Steve
Simonson, Peggy
Smith, Gloria D.
Sowell, Bonnie (Williams)
Sowell, Thomas
Taylor, Sandra C.
Vandevender, Sheryl (Kennedy)

MRO